Why the fourth case only with the Axiom of Choice?

In summary: This is equivalent to using the Axiom of Choice, as the existence of a maximal element implies the existence of a choice function. Therefore, the Axiom of Choice is necessary in order to prove the fourth case.
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Hello people:

IN cardinal domination, a representative set A is dominated by a representative set B iff there's a One-to-One Onto function on A onto a subset of B. This yields four logical cases as the following:

Let X dom Y denote "X is dominated by Y".

- X dom Y & Y dom X (ByCantor/Shroder/Brenstien Theorem card X equals card Y)
- X dom Y & not(Y dom X)
- not(X dom Y) & Y dom X
- not(X dom Y) & not(Y dom X) ---> My problem is here

Why can't we prove the fourth case without using the Axiom of Choice or an equivalent form of it? A technical answer would be great as trying to prove it using Zorn's Lemma.

This is not a homework question. I'm a Math enthusiast and a self-learner who works on Set Theory. :)

Thanks in advance,
 
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The fourth case is not provable without the Axiom of Choice (or an equivalent form) because it is impossible to prove that there does not exist a One-to-One Onto function on A onto a subset of B. The Axiom of Choice provides a method for constructing such a function, and so it is necessary in order to prove that none exists.To prove the fourth case using Zorn's Lemma, you would need to assume the existence of a partial ordering on the set of all possible functions from A to B, such that every chain of functions has an upper bound. Then you could prove that this partial ordering has a maximal element, thus showing that there exists no One-to-One Onto function from A to a subset of B.
 

1. Why is the fourth case only possible with the Axiom of Choice?

The fourth case, also known as the "well-ordering theorem", can only be proven with the Axiom of Choice because it states that every set can be well-ordered, meaning that there is a way to assign a unique number to each element in the set. This is a controversial statement in mathematics, and the Axiom of Choice is needed to prove it.

2. What is the Axiom of Choice?

The Axiom of Choice is a fundamental mathematical principle that states that given any collection of non-empty sets, it is possible to choose one element from each set to create a new set. This may seem intuitive, but it has been shown to lead to some counterintuitive and controversial results, such as the Banach-Tarski paradox.

3. Why is the Axiom of Choice considered controversial?

The Axiom of Choice is controversial because it allows for the creation of sets that cannot be explicitly constructed. This goes against the constructivist approach to mathematics, which states that all mathematical objects must be explicitly defined. Additionally, the Axiom of Choice can lead to paradoxical results, such as the Banach-Tarski paradox, which challenges our understanding of space and volume.

4. Are there any alternatives to the Axiom of Choice?

Yes, there are alternative axioms that have been proposed, such as the Axiom of Determinacy and the Axiom of Constructibility. These axioms have been shown to be equivalent to the Axiom of Choice in some cases, but they differ in their implications for other mathematical concepts. They are also not widely accepted by all mathematicians.

5. How does the Axiom of Choice impact mathematics?

The Axiom of Choice has a significant impact on mathematics, as it allows for the creation of new sets and the proof of certain theorems. It has been used to prove many important theorems, such as the Hahn-Banach theorem and the well-ordering theorem. However, its controversial nature also leads to debates and discussions within the mathematical community.

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