Why Women Complain About Toilet Seats

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The discussion centers around the frustrations women have regarding men not lifting the toilet seat when urinating, which is perceived as a cleanliness issue rather than a matter of shared labor. Women express their discomfort with having to touch a toilet seat that may be contaminated with urine, emphasizing that their complaints stem from hygiene concerns rather than simply wanting men to do half the work. The conversation reveals a divide in understanding between genders, with men often dismissing the issue as trivial or a matter of personal responsibility. Some men argue that if cleanliness is the concern, women should simply clean the seat themselves if necessary, while women counter that it is unfair to expect them to clean up after men. The discussion touches on broader themes of gender dynamics and expectations, with some participants referencing feminism and expressing confusion about its implications in this context. Ultimately, the thread highlights the ongoing struggle for mutual respect and understanding in shared living spaces.
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Woman are not mad at men for not lifting the toilet seat because of the piss left on the seat, their just mad because if they lift it themselves that would make them the ones doing all the work. They think this way subconsciously without knowing it. If the real reason to their complaining was in fact because of the piss left on the seat, they would probably just raise the seat up themselves each time after they were through. They want men to lift the toilet seat up when they piss so that the man would be doing half of the work, and after the woman pees, she would then put the seat down which would complete the cycle with both sides having the equal amount of work done…feminism is truly a *****.
 
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What an astonishing piece of insight. I think you have changed my world outlook forever.
 
zoobyshoe said:
What an astonishing piece of insight. I think you have changed my world outlook forever.
Except that it is an astonishingly INCORRECT piece of {insight?}. If you really think this is a work issue, you have a WHOLE LOT to learn about women. Now maybe it is a work issue for YOU (how 'bout getting your lazy ass off the couch and actually going in and CLEANING that toilet!) -but for us, it's a cleanliness issue. We don't want to TOUCH a toilet seat covered in piss, and we don't want to look into the toilet bowl with the lid up. I always feel I have to wash my hands BEFORE I go to the bathroom if I have to touch the seat to put it down. It's GROSS! I don't want that hand touching any part of my body after it's touched that nasty toilet seat. So, to reiterate - IT'S NOT A WORK ISSUE! WE DON'T LIKE TOUCHING YOUR PEE-COVERED TOILET SEAT! :rolleyes: :mad: :-p :eek: :biggrin:
 
and we don't want to look into the toilet bowl with the lid up.

That's the nub of the complaint. But it's a hard sell to the guys, who always have to stare into the toilet. What's not to like about it?
 
selfAdjoint said:
That's the nub of the complaint. But it's a hard sell to the guys, who always have to stare into the toilet.
Well, I got to tell ya. From what I've seen at work, guys do not even LOOK at the toilet while they pee. They look just about everywhere else, and their aim pretty much goes with wherever they're looking. Which is why we girls don't want to touch the bottom of that nasty seat!

What's not to like about it?
Uhhhh... 'Skid' marks? :eek: (Jeez, I wish they'd put seat covers on the toilets at work.) :mad:
 
uh...who has problems pissing in the bowl? jeez i dont, I'm glad I'M normal :)
 
Men are expected to do everything the women must do except that men create the problems associated with bad aim. So really I think this is an aim dependent issue. Bad aimers should should lift the seat while the rest of us more talented folks shouldn't have to bother. As for the women, if you run with a crowd of bad aimers then that's your problem. Bad life choices come with consequences. :-p
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Men are expected to do everything the women must do except that men create the problems associated with bad aim. So really I think this is an aim dependent issue. Bad aimers should should lift the seat while the rest of us more talented folks shouldn't have to bother. As for the women, if you run with a crowd of bad aimers then that's your problem. Bad life choices come with consequences. :-p
I envy Tsunami more every day. :frown:
 
Netme said:
of work done…feminism is truly a *****.

Im kinda confused here... what type of feminism? The feminist movement in the 1920s about the right to vote? Nineteenth Amendment? Or the modern feminist movement? (the highly-manhating one, of which I am completely confused about) ?

Tsunami, if you're grossed out by the toilet thing there is always the layer-the-toilet-paper-on-the-bowl option, or you could go natural style near a stylish tree (100% fertilizer!)
 
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I thought the whole issue was that we were supposed to remember to put the seat back down when we are done pissing, so that the woman doesn't sit in the bowl.
It's all so confusing, that's why I pee in the shower. Did you know you can pee on someone in the shower and they don't even know it?
 
  • #11
tribdog said:
It's all so confusing, that's why I pee in the shower. Did you know you can pee on someone in the shower and they don't even know it?

I never knew that, tribdog you are a bad influence
 
  • #12
Really though, can any knowledge be considered bad?
 
  • #13
Ivan Seeking said:
Men are expected to do everything the women must do except that men create the problems associated with bad aim. So really I think this is an aim dependent issue. Bad aimers should should lift the seat while the rest of us more talented folks shouldn't have to bother. As for the women, if you run with a crowd of bad aimers then that's your problem. Bad life choices come with consequences. :-p
Yes, darlin' - and I've been suffering :eek: those consequences for many years! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
 
  • #14
Tsunami said:
I always feel I have to wash my hands BEFORE I go to the bathroom if I have to touch the seat to put it down.

I live with my parents and my brother. 2 of the 3 men would rather piss on the seat than lift the seat up (I'm the one who lifts the seat up). Because of men being such pigs, my mom has her own bathroom. If I have to drop anchor, I always try to use that bathroom. If I'm forced to use the piss-seat bathroom, I always end up cleaning the seat before I use it! Of course the piss-seat bathroom has a concave seat which makes it even more disgusting. It always seems necessary to shower after using that bathroom... :frown:

Am I the only guy in the world who does not enjoy sitting in his own urine?
 
  • #15
tribdog said:
I thought the whole issue was that we were supposed to remember to put the seat back down when we are done pissing, so that the woman doesn't sit in the bowl.
I will never forget the night I woke up and went to the bathroom and ended up splashing down into cold water. :mad:

tribdog said:
Did you know you can pee on someone in the shower and they don't even know it?
I take it your girlfriend doesn't come to PF?
 
  • #16
Evo said:
I will never forget the night I woke up and went to the bathroom and ended up splashing down into cold water. :mad:

You sat down without looking? What happens if one of the men in the house pissed on the seat :eek:
 
  • #17
ShawnD said:
You sat down without looking? What happens if one of the men in the house pissed on the seat :eek:
I was half asleep. I wasn't thinking. Now I check to make sure the seat is down, even when there are no men around. Once is enough. Talk about a rude awakening! :eek:
 
  • #18
My mom used to tell me that little story. I never believed it.

cookiemonster
 
  • #19
cookiemonster said:
My mom used to tell me that little story. I never believed it.

cookiemonster
BELIEVE IT!
 
  • #20
Nope, sorry.

cookiemonster
 
  • #21
It's about equal to crossing the street without looking both ways. And since adults can do anything kids can do (not pertaining to size), it's fully possible that a grown woman can fall into a toilet.

:biggrin:
 
  • #22
Especially since men don't live in my house, I had a guest. I wasn't expecting the lid to be up.
 
  • #23
Likely excuse!

Either way, I don't think you can weasel your way out of looking bad on this one. ;)

cookiemonster
 
  • #24
Just be happy he was polite enough to lift the seat before going.
 
  • #25
Evo said:
I take it your girlfriend doesn't come to PF?

My girlfriend can't spell PF
 
  • #26
cookiemonster said:
Likely excuse!

Either way, I don't think you can weasel your way out of looking bad on this one. ;)

cookiemonster
Would another testimonial help to persuade you? How about 3 of them? My mom, my sister and myself had a riotous time telling our stories of sitting in the bowl - and yes, it was usually well after midnight and in the dark. Not only that, but I had a cat that used to love to drink out of the toilet, balanced precariously on the seat. When Ivan and I started dating, he left the seat up a few times and not only did I fall in, but so did the cat. (Although THAT was FUNNY! :biggrin: :biggrin: ) Ivan soon learned that, to keep peace with me and the cat, he needs to put the seat put the seat down. Especially since, after the first time he did it, after drying off I went back to bed and snuggled my cold (and still slightly damp) buns up against him in his sleep! I figured one 'rude awakening' deserved another! :wink: :biggrin: Of course, HE thought it was hysterical and well worth it. :mad:
 
  • #27
tribdog said:
My girlfriend can't spell PF
tribdog, I love you man. You crack me up so BAD...! :biggrin: You've been in rare form lately. :wink:
 
  • #28
Tsunami said:
I went back to bed and snuggled my cold (and still slightly damp) buns up against him in his sleep!

...and all this time I thought that was the cat! :eek:
 
  • #29
i don't get Evo's story...did she sit in a potty? OOH OOH, did she FALL down the toilet??
 
  • #30
Yes, your PF mom fell into the toilet. :frown:
 
  • #31
Tsunami said:
tribdog, I love you man. You crack me up so BAD...! :biggrin: You've been in rare form lately. :wink:
lol, thanks. I don't think you are supposed to encourage me though.
I tore a muscle in my chest and I've been stuck on a couch all week so I'm spending about 18 hours a day online. You guys have been stuck with me.
 
  • #32
Evo said:
Yes, your PF mom fell into the toilet. :frown:
As did your PF aunt (AND her sister, AND her mother). I'm quite certain there are MANY others who have also experienced this.
 
  • #33
Tsunami said:
As did your PF aunt (AND her sister, AND her mother). I'm quite certain there are MANY others who have also experienced this.

Wow, none of your relatives are very bright. You better hope Mendelev was wrong.
 
  • #34
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... i hope it isn't e-hereditary otherwise i hear the toilet coming to get me...
 
  • #35
When I was 8 years old, I could direct a high velocity stream of pee six foot from the toilet bowl and hit nothing but net. Now I straddle the bowl and hit nothing rim.
 
  • #36
What about when piss pressure dropped? Did you end up making one hell of a mess?
 
  • #37
he left a yellow trail of destruction methinks, unless he moved in for the kill...
 
  • #38
As I remember, my technique was to move incrementally away from the bowl as the stream commences and towards the bowl as the pressure wanes. I was also introduced to 'Mr. Belt' by my father, when he subsequently caught me performing my act.
 
  • #39
you mean he WASNT impressed? :P
 
  • #40
You say you want us to put the seat up so you would not have to sit on pis. You also say that you want us to put the seat down so you won't fall into the toilet bowl. Is it really that hard for you to look down before you pee?
If you simply looked before you went, all your problems would be solved. If there was piss on the seat, all you would have to do is wipe it clean. And if the seat were up you could just put it back down. The real reason you complain is because your angry at us for not accommodating your desires. You feel as though we should put the seat up when we pee since we're the only ones who pee standing. And we should put the seat down since we're the reason for the seat being up in the first place. I believe you don't tell us this because it is a feminist behavior which you are unaware of that exists subconsciously within you.
 
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Netme said:
You say you want us to put the seat up so you would not have to sit on pis. You also say that you want us to put the seat down so you won't fall into the toilet bowl. Is it really that hard for you to look down before you pee?
If you simply looked before you went, all your problems would be solved. If there was piss on the seat, all you would have to do is wipe it clean. And if the seat were up you could just put it back down. The real reason you complain is because your angry at us for not accommodating your desires. You feel as though we should put the seat up when we pee since we're the only ones who pee standing. And we should put the seat down since we're the reason for the seat being up in the first place. I believe you don't tell us this because it is a feminist behavior which you are unaware of that exists subconsciously within you.
OK, guys. I realize this may be difficult, but pay attention, huh?

1. If you haven't learned about bathroom cleanliness by now, please know that when you flush the toilet with the lid up, the urine-filled particulate spray floats all around the bathroom and ends up on your towel, washcloth, toothbrush, etc. That's why women put the lid down before they flush (and we don't flush before the job is done, leaving urine in the bowl for the next person to splash into). Unfortunately, we foolishly assume that you know this, and you'll also close the lid before flushing to keep the family healthy. Silly us.

2. "If there was piss on the seat, all you would have to do is wipe it clean."
You've got to be some kind of NUT! Why should WE have to clean YOUR piss off the toilet seat before we can use it? It's YOUR piss, YOU missed the bowl, YOU clean it up! Were you born in a freakin' BARN?

3. We are in no way angry that you won't 'accommodate our desire's. We are angry, however, when you cop attitudes like #2 (above) - somehow thinking that we should have no problem with wiping your piss off the toilet 5 times a day. We are also angry that you seem to think your 'aim game' is so funny but you sure get ugly when we ask you to clean the toilet.

GET A CLUE! :-p

p.s.
I'm not talking about Ivan here! (He's PERFECT!) This is from other experience.
 
  • #42
Tsunami said:
2. "If there was piss on the seat, all you would have to do is wipe it clean."
You've got to be some kind of NUT! Why should WE have to clean YOUR piss off the toilet seat before we can use it? It's YOUR piss, YOU missed the bowl, YOU clean it up! Were you born in a freakin' BARN?

.

The point i was trying to make was if the real reason you were bothered was because of the piss on the seat, why didnt you just look before and clean it off yourself if its there? When you first argued about this, you seemed like it was the piss that got you angry, the cleaniness issue. Yet now you show anger against us men for not cleaning up our own piss. Which is it? A cleaniness issue or a man issue. What i have quoted is what you felt all along but were not aware of until know. This is the subconscious feminism i was talking about. You are right by feeling this way but if you do not tell us exactly how you feel we will believe that it was the piss that has angered you and not our disrespectful behavior. I strongly believe that feminism should exist, just not in the way it does today.
 
  • #43
You're getting too in depth

-Anybody who pisses on the seat is an idiot. No excuses.
-If you fall in the toilet, it's your own fault.
 
  • #44
Netme said:
The point i was trying to make was if the real reason you were bothered was because of the piss on the seat, why didnt you just look before and clean it off yourself if its there? When you first argued about this, you seemed like it was the piss that got you angry, the cleaniness issue. Yet now you show anger against us men for not cleaning up our own piss. Which is it? A cleaniness issue or a man issue. What i have quoted is what you felt all along but were not aware of until know. This is the subconscious feminism i was talking about. You are right by feeling this way but if you do not tell us exactly how you feel we will believe that it was the piss that has angered you and not our disrespectful behavior. I strongly believe that feminism should exist, just not in the way it does today.
Sorry if I went off on you a little bit. This is a real 'totally grossed out' issue for me. Let me ask you this. Don't you think that playing the 'aim game' (or just plain missing the bowl because you're staring at the wall in front of you and not watching what you're doing) and then not cleaning up the mess IS a cleanliness issue?
 
  • #45
Plus just "wiping up" doesn't completey get rid of it. We have to sit on what's left of it. It's not a pleasant thought.
 
  • #46
I'm perfect? She never talks to me like this at home. :confused:
 
  • #47
Ivan Seeking said:
I'm perfect? She never talks to me like this at home. :confused:
Hey! What are YOU doing here? I didn't think you were reading this thread! Dang. I'm busted. :-p
 
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