Why would Newton's 2nd law be meaningless here?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the implications of Newton's second law when an isolated body begins to accelerate. It highlights the challenge of determining whether the system is truly isolated or if external factors are influencing the acceleration. Without an independent measurement, one cannot ascertain if the laws of physics are being violated or if the isolation was inadequate. This ambiguity raises questions about the application of Newton's second law in such scenarios. Ultimately, the need for proper isolation and measurement is crucial for accurate analysis in physics.
Physics news on Phys.org
As the example says, if the object starts to accelerate you have no way of telling whether or not it is actually isolated unless you can find something else to measure. Is the system isolated and the laws of physics broken? Or is it that you haven't isolated the system well? You don't know! You need an independent way of telling.
 
Thanks Drakkith...I think I might've misinterpreted what it was saying a bit
 
The rope is tied into the person (the load of 200 pounds) and the rope goes up from the person to a fixed pulley and back down to his hands. He hauls the rope to suspend himself in the air. What is the mechanical advantage of the system? The person will indeed only have to lift half of his body weight (roughly 100 pounds) because he now lessened the load by that same amount. This APPEARS to be a 2:1 because he can hold himself with half the force, but my question is: is that mechanical...
Some physics textbook writer told me that Newton's first law applies only on bodies that feel no interactions at all. He said that if a body is on rest or moves in constant velocity, there is no external force acting on it. But I have heard another form of the law that says the net force acting on a body must be zero. This means there is interactions involved after all. So which one is correct?
Let there be a person in a not yet optimally designed sled at h meters in height. Let this sled free fall but user can steer by tilting their body weight in the sled or by optimal sled shape design point it in some horizontal direction where it is wanted to go - in any horizontal direction but once picked fixed. How to calculate horizontal distance d achievable as function of height h. Thus what is f(h) = d. Put another way, imagine a helicopter rises to a height h, but then shuts off all...
Back
Top