News Will Palin's VP Debate Performance Impact McCain's Campaign?

[Evo]

What about Gov. Palin justifies a cute comparison to child abuser Joan Crawford?

Joan Crawford (AKA Mommie Dearest) was a woman that went to great lengths to give the public the appearance of a wonderful, loving family, with deep "family values", when in reality she put her own hapiness and ambitions ahead of those of her children. It is that kind of character that I personally pick up from Palin's actions.

 

[Astronuc]

. . . . when in reality she put her own hapiness and ambitions ahead of those of her children. It is that kind of character that I personally pick up from Palin's actions.

I was looking at photos of Bristol holding trig, and she somehow doesn't seem happy. There is one picture where Sarah Palin is exiting a stage, and Bristol looks pretty miserable, as in - "well mom is having fun, and I'm stuck with the baby." It looks like Ms. Palin has pushed off child rearing to her oldest daughter, while she goes off and parties. But it's just a father's perception.

And contrary to what the religious right or evangelicals have everyone believe, it's not normal or typical, except perhaps for some dysfunctional families.

Edit: I also don't want to put this all on Ms. Palin's shoulders. I'm wondering where the heck her husband is all this, and why isn't he talking care of Trig, and why do they have a few months old baby at a noisy convention.

 

[isly ilwott]

Joan Crawford (AKA Mommie Dearest) was a woman that went to great lengths to give the public the appearance of a wonderful, loving family, with deep "family values", when in reality she put her own hapiness and ambitions ahead of those of her children. It is that kind of character that I personally pick up from Palin's actions.

Would you say this of any mother that has succeeded in a life outside the home...or is this just a barb directed at Palin for political reasons? I think you have little idea about her home life...certainly not enough to brand her as a hypocrit.

 

[turbo]

On the one hand I see this ethics brouhaha as payback for Palin's attacks against the other Republicans in Alaska that has been under the guise of this fighting corrupt politicians.

It's hard for me to see her as a big corruption-fighter. She chaired a 527 PAC for Ted Stevens for 2 years and fought for the "bridge to nowhere" and got millions of dollars in earmarks for her town when she was mayor. There is a campaign ad with Ted Stevens endorsing her candidacy, but it has been removed from her web site. However, thanks to the fine folks that brought us youtube:

 

[mheslep]

Joan Crawford (AKA Mommie Dearest) was a woman that went to great lengths to give the public the appearance of a wonderful, loving family, with deep "family values", when in reality she put her own hapiness and ambitions ahead of those of her children. It is that kind of character that I personally pick up from Palin's actions.

Well everyone's entitled to whatever personal vibe they get from Gov. Palin, but a Mommie Dearest comparison? Crawford did much worse to her offspring than engage in self indulgence, she'd should have been jailed for her crap; Crawford-Palin is fairly outlandish comparison that facts on the table don't justify.

Regards her baby: she's not a single parent; I don't see a mass labelling of executive fathers of newborns as Daddy Dearest for failing to quit their jobs and stay home. She also must have done her share of diaper changing before entering politics in '92. For that matter we have an entire country of families where at least one parent maintains a demanding job right through a new child. Regards her pregnant daughter: all child rearing parents are unsuited for political office based on the banter in this thread. There are plenty of national level politicians that should have resigned or never started based on that logic.

 

[LowlyPion]

Joan Crawford (AKA Mommie Dearest) was a woman that went to great lengths to give the public the appearance of a wonderful, loving family, with deep "family values", when in reality she put her own hapiness and ambitions ahead of those of her children. It is that kind of character that I personally pick up from Palin's actions.

I think it's called narcissism.
Clinically Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by:

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

 

[Evo]

I think it's called narcissism.
Clinically Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by:

That sounds like a possibility.

 

[turbo]

This should go over well. Palin slashed funding for a suite of programs designed to help young people in trouble, include Passage House that affords young unwed mothers a place to live with their babies for up to 18 months while learning the skills that will allow them to get jobs and live independently.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/th...lin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot

 

[LowlyPion]

This should go over well. Palin slashed funding for a suite of programs designed to help young people in trouble, include Passage House that affords young unwed mothers a place to live with their babies for up to 18 months while learning the skills that will allow them to get jobs and live independently.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/th...lin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot

"We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi's privacy, as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."

This might also be interpreted to say, "Please don't talk to Levi and get his side of things as to how he is being forced to marry our daughter."

 

[LowlyPion]

I wouldn't call it slashing.

OK. It's apparently just a 20% cut in funding authorized by Palin's initials.

I'd say you are splitting hares on this.

On a slightly different issue I wonder do you support the discussion, if not the teaching of Intelligent Design in public schools the way Palin does?

 

[chemisttree]

I was looking at photos of Bristol holding trig, and she somehow doesn't seem happy. There is one picture where Sarah Palin is exiting a stage, and Bristol looks pretty miserable, as in - "well mom is having fun, and I'm stuck with the baby." It looks like Ms. Palin has pushed off child rearing to her oldest daughter, while she goes off and parties. But it's just a father's perception.

I think that Bristol needed to hold something in front of her now obvious baby bump. I would look uncomfortable as well in her situation and it wouldn't be because I saw mommie having fun. Not at all.

 

[chemisttree]

That sounds like a possibility.

Do you see yourself as the glue that holds that cracked glass ceiling intact?

 

[Evo]

Do you see yourself as the glue that holds that cracked glass ceiling intact?

I'm for women's rights, something Palin doesn't appear to be for, IMO. So your comment makes no sense if you are referring to being for women's rights.

chem, you are free to have your opinions and I am free to have mine, but you are not free to make snide remarks about another member.

 

[Gokul43201]

Only in that McCain needs that political philosopher somewhere in his team, it need not be the VP, and historically the VP is not the number 2 guy running the show.

In recent history, the VP seems to be the number 1 guy running the show.

Obama is going to be haunted by the 'is he up to it' question on matters of force to which I credit his loose cannon statements on Pakistan - trying to prove he's tough enough.

Can you quote some of these loose cannon statements, and explain how they qualify as loose cannon?

 

[Astronuc]

This might also be interpreted to say, "Please don't talk to Levi and get his side of things as to how he is being forced to marry our daughter."

Both teenagers are still in high school and living in their parents home. Their parents are their guardians, and it is certainly appropriate for the parents to tell the media - "back off!"

I sure wouldn't want reporters calling or pressuring my children for a story. If the kids want to make a statement - fine, but the media need to back off.

I have to wonder if both teens are being forced into a marriage they would not otherwise enter. I seriously doubt they lack the maturity, especially when the young man boasts about kicking someone's a$$ if they mess with him. Sad situation IMO.

 

[LowlyPion]

In recent history, the VP seems to be the number 1 guy running the show.

This would be a failing of Bush's, not a blueprint for something that would be ideal.

Gore certainly stood ready to serve. Bush the Elder did as well. But they served for stronger President's than we've had the last 8 years.

 

[LowlyPion]

Both teenagers are still in high school and living in their parents home. Their parents are their guardians, and it is certainly appropriate for the parents to tell the media - "back off!"

I sure wouldn't want reporters calling or pressuring my children for a story. If the kids want to make a statement - fine, but the media need to back off.

I have to wonder if both teens are being forced into a marriage they would not otherwise enter. I seriously doubt they lack the maturity, especially when the young man boasts about kicking someone's a$$ if they mess with him. Sad situation IMO.

It is even within this context presumptuous of Palin though to suggest that the media not talk to Levi. He is not a member of her family. She does not speak for him as much as she might wish to control what he may say.

 

[Evo]

Both teenagers are still in high school and living in their parents home. Their parents are their guardians, and it is certainly appropriate for the parents to tell the media - "back off!"

Actually, his mother said that he is no longer in school, apparently he dropped out?

Levi Johnston, a high school hockey player for Wasilla High School, is not listed on the team roster for 2008-2009, and his mother wouldn't say if he graduated. She said simply he's no longer a student and any further information would have to come from him.

 

[Gokul43201]

It is amusing how the liberal crowd...the crowd that loves the short marriages forged by the liberal Hollywood sleaze, the crowd that forgives the live-togethers as long as they are famous people...

Here's what Sarah Palin thought about ex-model Ivana Trump - Ivana has been through 4 marriages (the shortest one not making it through the second year) and I don't know how many live-togethers - who visited Anchorage in 1996. I believe this was a few months before Palin was elected Mayor of Wasilla.

From an April 1996 report in the Anchorage Daily News:

ALASKANS LINE UP FOR A WHIFF OF IVANA

Sarah Palin, a commercial fisherman from Wasilla, told her husband on Tuesday she was driving to Anchorage to shop at Costco. Instead, she headed straight for Ivana.

And there, at J.C. Penney's cosmetic department, was Ivana, the former Mrs. Donald Trump, sitting at a table next to a photograph of herself. She wore a light-colored pantsuit and pink fingernail polish. Her blonde hair was coiffed in a bouffant French twist.

"We want to see Ivana," said Palin, who admittedly smells like salmon for a large part of the summer, "because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture."

Some here might say that sounds like liberal sleaze-talk.

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Parts of that original report or the quote in it can be found in other News stories.
Example:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wa...stions_surround_palin_as_sp.html?hpid=topnews

 

[LowlyPion]

Actually, his mother said that he is no longer in school, apparently he dropped out?

Makes me wonder if he is being paid by some right-wing benefactor to lay low - real low until after November. Is he in hiding somewhere? Gone fishing?

It further sounds like she has no problem with the media talking to him, so that would suggest that Palin has no standing to be telling the press or anyone to stay away from him.

He is 18 and old enough to be able to be shot at in the Army. He must be old enough to deal with the press and answer a few innocuous questions about his relationship with Bristol.

 

[Gokul43201]

Hee hee! Mike Murphy & Peggy Noonan (both Republican strategists) trashing Sarah Palin during an open mike incident, after an interview with Chuck Todd.

CrG8w4bb3kg[/youtube] [quote]Mike ...url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Noonan

 

[LowlyPion]

Hee hee! Mike Murphy & Peggy Noonan (both Republican strategists) trashing Sarah Palin during an open mike incident, after an interview with Chuck Todd.

This is what is so disingenuous about TV. They smile and deliver milquetoast platitudes and then stick the shivs in off camera.

 

[Evo]

Hee hee! Mike Murphy & Peggy Noonan (both Republican strategists) trashing Sarah Palin during an open mike incident, after an interview with Chuck Todd.

CrG8w4bb3kg[/youtube] Murphy...url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Noonan

I've come to the conclusion that no one with a clue about what is going on honestly believes that Palin can cut the mustard. Even McCains wife on tv said that she disagrees with Palin's beliefs on abortion. I'll post that link later.

 

[out of whack]

One thing keeps coming back to my mind. Some of you may remember an episode of "WKRP in Cincinnati" where Mr. Carlson, wanting to make a leader's decision, fails to inform his people about his upcoming stunt: he goes on to drop live turkeys from a helicopter on Thanksgiving Day as a gift to the city. After the disaster he could only plead "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

I wonder why I keep thinking about that episode...

 

[Gokul43201]

I've come to the conclusion that no one with a clue about what is going on honestly believes that Palin can cut the mustard. Even McCains wife on tv said that she disagrees with Palin's beliefs on abortion.

Now, just because you disagree with her on some issue doesn't mean you are doubtful about what she is capable of.

Sarah Palin's mother-in-law, however, came a lot closer to expressing doubt about her qualifications, when she said:

I'm not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she's a woman and a conservative. Well, she's a better speaker than McCain.
...
People will say she hasn't been on the national scene long enough. But I believe she's a quick study.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/2008/08/30/2008-08-30_sarah_palins_motherinlaw_uncertain_about.html

 

[edward]

Bristol and Levi are greeted by McCain.

 

[Astronuc]

Actually, his mother said that he is no longer in school, apparently he dropped out?

Ok - so he's a high school drop out (or is he just off the team) and living at home with his parents. And he's going to marry the girl he got pregnant!? Well he is 18 and his parents and the government cannot make him go to school.

Great start - great example of 'family values'.

I'm sorry, but this whole scenario is not the norm.

 

[Astronuc]

Bristol and Levi are greeted by McCain.

And the Republicans are playing this up. One more reason why the McCain-Palin team is ill-suited to lead the country.

 

[Cyrus]

Bristol and Levi are greeted by McCain.

He looks like a clown. A robot clown at that.

I really can't stand this BS 'I care about you' nonsense. Let me hug you, and you, and you, and kiss the baby. It's fake, and worse it's obviously fake.


Pathetic...makes me sick to my stomach to watch.

 

[castlegates]

It would seem obvious from her speech tonight that she connects with the average everyday family (The cornerstone of any election),

 

[BadDog]

He looks like a clown. A robot clown at that.

I really can't stand this BS 'I care about you' nonsense. Let me hug you, and you, and you, and kiss the baby. It's fake, and worse it's obviously fake.


Pathetic...makes me sick to my stomach to watch.

Sometimes you just have to laugh, try this.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p315/96FXD/ChipmuckCheeks.jpg

 

[lisab]

It would seem obvious from her speech tonight that she connects with the average everyday family (The cornerstone of any election), and the unabashed showing of her new born for all the world to see turned a few million votes in an instant. I might even vote for the first time in twenty years. Just kidding ... I'll never vote as long as it's a popularity contest. All in all, Sara did a decent job.

I'll give you that, castlegates, she gave a good speech. Didn't change my vote, though.

There was a lot of sniping from her and Giuliani tonight, IMO. Look, politics doesn't have to be nasty or mean, in spite of the last 8 years. Such a put-off. I hate bullies with a white-hot passion...and the way the crowd cheered when she mentioned his community organizing work came off as simply mean, like a bunch of programmed robots responding the way they are supposed to.

I still don't see her staring down Putin in a crisis - no way, no how.

 

[B. Elliott]

At the same time though she also states...

Faye Palin admitted she enjoys hearing Barack Obama speak, and still hasn't decided which way she'll vote.

"We don't agree on everything. But I respect her passion,"

"I'm not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she's a woman and a conservative. Well, she's a better speaker than McCain," Faye Palin said with a laugh. "People will say she hasn't been on the national scene long enough. But I believe she's a quick study."

IMO, someone being a quick study is a good thing. Someone who can pull in and analyze information quickly. Someone who can quickly adapt to to what is thrown at them. Also, i'd like to point out this statement by Faye Palin...

She said people doubted Sarah Palin when she ran for City Council, but that her daughter-in-law had a "singular focus."

Many people may also doubt her ability as running for VP. IMO, Palin being in the singular liable position as Mayor of a town for six years, along with holding the singular liable position as governor of Alaska from '06 to present, shows better leadership and governmental skill than a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama" who has simply shared responsibility with other numerous senators. One who has never had complete responsibly hanging over his head, and his head alone.

Sarah Palin stepped up to the plate and led with complete responsibility on herself as the leader.

I like that.

 

[Cyrus]

At the same time though she also states...





IMO, someone being a quick study is a good thing. Someone who can pull in and analyze information quickly. Someone who can quickly adapt to to what is thrown at them. Also, i'd like to point out this statement by Faye Palin...



Many people may also doubt her ability as running for VP. IMO, Palin being in the singular liable position as Mayor of a town for six years, along with holding the singular liable position as governor of Alaska from '06 to present, shows better leadership and governmental skill than a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama" who has simply shared responsibility with other numerous senators. One who has never had complete responsibly hanging over his head, and his head alone.

Sarah Palin stepped up to the plate and led with complete responsibility on herself as the leader.

I like that.

That's basically saying, well she doesn't have any idea what she's doing BUTTTTTTT she does learn things quickly...

That's why people say: you can't put a price on experience.

Okay, so she can adapt to what's thrown at her at a small town. How does that have any bearing on a national/global scope?

How can you sit here and praise a woman that wants to teach against evolution in schools?

 

[castlegates]

He looks like a clown. A robot clown at that.

I really can't stand this BS 'I care about you' nonsense. Let me hug you, and you, and you, and kiss the baby. It's fake, and worse it's obviously fake.


Pathetic...makes me sick to my stomach to watch.

Cyrus - He was tortured for five and a half years. You got to at least allow for a little stiffness. :-)
And you are inside his head, and you know there is evil within?

 

[Cyrus]

Cyrus - He was tortured for five and a half years. You got to at least allow for a little stiffness. :-)
And you are inside his head, and you know there is evil within?

...spare me the sob story. The main point of my complaint was not his stiffness.

 

[B. Elliott]

Also, her speech tonight bettered my opinion of her by a great deal. I do disagree with a few of her opinions, but in the real world, no one will ever have stances that everyone everywhere agrees on. There will always be differences.

Other than her strong pro-life stance, overall, I like her views.

 

[Nesiox]

Start small, go BIG. I guess that is the line of thinking from his post. Anyway, I don't dislike Palin as a person, but I disagree with her and McCain's views. I don't want Creationism to be taught in schools, and some other views that are debatable like prohibiting SCR. It should be accepted and funded not prohibited. McCain was a good candidate, but he has been wrapped around Bush's finger so long, I think he actually disregarded his old views as dirt. That's peer pressure for you.

 

[Cyrus]

Also, her speech tonight bettered my opinion of her by a great deal. I do disagree with a few of her opinions, but in the real world, no one will ever have stances that everyone everywhere agrees on. There will always be differences.

Other than her strong pro-life stance, overall, I like her views.

Could you please tell me what you like about her views? I'm curious to know.

 

[B. Elliott]

That's basically saying, well she doesn't have any idea what she's doing BUTTTTTTT she does learn things quickly...

That's why people say: you can't put a price on experience.

Okay, so she can adapt to what's thrown at her at a small town. How does that have any bearing on a national/global scope?

How can you sit here and praise a woman that wants to teach against evolution in schools?

That was just one persons opinion of her. I'm saying she's well experienced as a leader. More so than one person who s currently running for the Presidential position...

Many people may also doubt her ability as running for VP. IMO, Palin being in the singular liable position as Mayor of a town for six years, along with holding the singular liable position as governor of Alaska from '06 to present, shows better leadership and governmental skill than a Junior Senator who has simply shared responsibility with other numerous senators. One who has never had complete responsibly hanging over his head, and his head alone.

Sarah Palin stepped up to the plate and led with complete responsibility on herself as the leader.

 

[castlegates]

...spare me the sob story. The main point of my complaint was not his stiffness.

So you are inside his head, and you know that everything he did in the video was fake?

 

[B. Elliott]

Could you please tell me what you like about her views? I'm curious to know.

I'd rather not. Since I'm so bad with wording and conveying opinion, i'll just open up a can of worms and put my foot in my mouth. My decisions typically speak louder than my words.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I heard a bit of her speech a little while ago. All I heard was a bunch of the usual pro McCain anti Obama rhetoric so I turned it off.

She seems to need an aweful lot of defending and I am still out on whether that is a good thing or a bad thing. People like to root for and defend the underdog so the attacks may just bring out more conservatives who wish to stand up for her. Or maybe they will actually see how easily she can be attacked as a bad sign.

Rush was defending her the other morning by saying Obama's campaign are shameful. He couldn't keep that up while admiting that Obama said family should be kept out of this so he didn't mention it and instead pulled a quote from a few months ago where Obama described the possibility of one of his daughter's getting pregnant as being "punished" and contrasted this with the Palin family statement on her daughter's pregnancy.

I heard a silly quote from McCain too...

Alaska is right next to Russia, and she understands that. Senator Obama has never even been south of our border. I mean please!

I'm sure he's probably never seen the donkey show either but I have no idea what it has to do with anything unless McCain is trying to insinuate that Obama has spent no time abroad. And some people like to say he doesn't do that sort of thing.

 

[LowlyPion]

Sarah Palin stepped up to the plate and led with complete responsibility on herself as the leader.

I like that.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder then I guess.

This whole internecine affair involving herself in a family spat with the ex-brother-in-law, while in her capacity as Governor, makes her appear to me as both petty and incapable of seeing her own larger picture and acting wisely. Why then should we think that she would be a capable steward of the interests of the larger picture for 300M Americans?

Sorry but what I see is poor decision making skills, inexperience and less than impressive intellect that opposes gay marriage, opposes abortion, supports Creationism, advocates premarital sexual abstinence and has an unexpected pregnancy in the family.

If she were a wine, I doubt I would put her back in the cellar to age, so much as just flush her down the drain.

 

[Cyrus]

So you are inside his head, and you know that everything he did in the video was fake?

Yes, becaues we all stand around hugging for 3mins and kiss babies while the press takes our picture. RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTT......

Gimme a break, man. It REEKS of BS.

 

[Cyrus]

I'd rather not. Since I'm so bad with wording and conveying opinion, i'll just open up a can of worms and put my foot in my mouth. My decisions typically speak louder than my words.

It's not opinion that I want. I just want to know, specifically, what facts about her policy you like that allows you to overlook issues like abortion and teaching against evolution.

Those two right there should be a huge red flag to anyone. I still argue this woman is a pathetic choice and I would have much rather seen tom ridge or someone equivalent.


For castlegates to sit here and clap for the woman makes wonder....


I have two choices. In my left hand a guy who knows what's going on, was a former governor, ran the DHS. On other hand I have a no name woman, with no experience, and a real winner of a family. Yet you guys are not upset about McCains choice of her? AMAZING..

I'm not a republican, but I would want the person the republicans pick to be a top choice so that if they win, at least I know it was someone qualified.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder then I guess.

This whole internecine affair involving herself in a family spat with the ex-brother-in-law, while in her capacity as Governor, makes her appear to me as both petty and incapable of seeing her own larger picture and acting wisely. Why then should we think that she would be a capable steward of the interests of the larger picture for 300M Americans?

Sorry but what I see is poor decision making skills, inexperience and less than impressive intellect that opposes gay marriage, opposes abortion, supports Creationism, advocates premarital sexual abstinence and has an unexpected pregnancy in the family.

If she were a wine, I doubt I would put her back in the cellar to age, so much as just flush her down the drain.

Honestly from what I have read the 'troopergate' thing seems to be blown way out of proportion. She removed the man who ought have fired her brother in law for not doing so. The only reason why it is suspicious is because of their relationship to one another. Otherwise if the governor of a state found out about a state trooper that made death threats, abused his son, and drank alcohol in his patrol car but wasn't fired I don't think anyone would bat an eye at that governor doing something about it.

 

[LowlyPion]

McCain was a good candidate, but he has been wrapped around Bush's finger so long, I think he actually disregarded his old views as dirt. That's peer pressure for you.

I'd say he is at this point a captive of the Pentecostal Right. McCain the maverick has seemingly lost his way and sold his soul for a prayer to grasp the office.

 

[Nesiox]

Cyrus - He was tortured for five and a half years. You got to at least allow for a little stiffness. :-)
And you are inside his head, and you know there is evil within?

I don't mean to be brash, but just because he was a soldier, it doesn't automatically qualify him to be a president. If I were McCain I wouldn't have chose Palin as Cyrus stated. I would've chosen someone who was more qualified for the position and had enough experience than the opposition, because with that, my cabinet will be full proof. Palin was a choice based on strategical popularity stand-point. She is a woman, which could sway many women who are angry with Hilary not winning to move towards her, she is a Bible thumper which will get the Christian vote, member of the NRA which will get those gun lovers vote as well. It was a choice based on popularity and to take a swing at Obama.

 

[LowlyPion]

Honestly from what I have read the 'troopergate' thing seems to be blown way out of proportion. She removed the man who ought have fired her brother in law for not doing so. The only reason why it is suspicious is because of their relationship to one another. Otherwise if the governor of a state found out about a state trooper that made death threats, abused his son, and drank alcohol in his patrol car but wasn't fired I don't think anyone would bat an eye at that governor doing something about it.

Excuse me, but "made death threats"? Please. That is an unproven allegation forwarded by Sarah and her sister's father. The other complaints were also only established by a report from the father. There was no corroboration.

There are apparently some serious axes to grind in that family and the exercise of her office to intervene in what is clearly a personal matter and not a public one, doesn't show good judgment to me.