Will the weight of jar changed?

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In summary, according to Newton's 3rd Law of motion, the weight of a capped jar with flies inside will be the same whether the flies are sitting on the bottom or flying around inside. This is because the flies fly by pushing down air, which in turn pushes back on the bottom of the jar. The weight may fluctuate slightly due to pressure differentials caused by the flying motion of the flies, but the overall weight will remain the same. This was tested on Mythbusters with birds in a truck and was found to be true.
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I read the following problem in a book

"A bunch of flies are in a capped jar. you place the jar on a scale. The scale will register the most weight when the flies are
a) sitting on the bottom of the jar
b) flying around inside the jar
c) ... weight of the jar is the same in both cases"

The answer from the book about this problem is c). But I don't understand if the flies are sitting on the bottom, I think we should add the weights of flies even it is so tiny (if we consider the scale is sensitive enough for no matter how small the weight is?). But why the answer will be c)?
 
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Newton's 3rd Law of motion. Flies fly by pushing down air. Air pushes at the bottom of the jar.

Mythbusters actually tried this one with birds in a truck.
 
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KFC said:
But I don't understand if the flies are sitting on the bottom, I think we should add the weights of flies even it is so tiny
You do include the weight of the flies.

You include the weight of the flies both when they are at rest on the floor of the jar and when flying around in the jar.
 
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When the flies are flying, then the pressure differential within the jar is increases so that the pressure at the top is a bit less and the pressure at the bottom is a bit more, and the total force created by this pressure differential will exactly equal the weight of the air and the weight of the flies.
 
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Actually the weight can decrease when the flies are flying up.

When a fly is flying then suddenly accelerates upwards, the jar will "weigh more". Also when the fly bangs its head on the jar cap, it will "weigh less".

Also there is a delay in the pressure wave created by the wings until it strikes the bottom of the jar, but the speed of sound is large compared to the jar size.
 

1. What factors can cause the weight of a jar to change?

There are several factors that can cause the weight of a jar to change, including the addition or removal of contents, changes in temperature or atmospheric pressure, and the presence of moisture or humidity.

2. Will the weight of a jar change if it is filled with a liquid or solid?

Yes, the weight of a jar will change if it is filled with a liquid or solid. The weight of the contents will be added to the weight of the jar itself, resulting in a higher overall weight.

3. Can the weight of a jar change over time?

Yes, the weight of a jar can change over time. This is especially true if the contents of the jar are perishable or prone to evaporation. The weight may also change due to fluctuations in temperature or atmospheric pressure.

4. Will the weight of a jar change if it is sealed?

If the jar is sealed, the weight will not change unless there is a change in the contents (such as evaporation or fermentation). The weight may also change if there is a change in the surrounding environment, such as a change in temperature or humidity.

5. Can the weight of a jar be affected by the material it is made of?

Yes, the material of the jar can affect its weight. For example, a glass jar will weigh more than a plastic jar of the same size. The material can also affect the weight of the contents, as some materials are denser than others.

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