Win the War on Hannukah: Delicious Delights!

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A discussion centered around dietary laws and cultural sensitivities emerged, sparked by a humorous incident involving a grocery store in Manhattan that mistakenly advertised ham as "Delicious for Chanukah." Participants shared anecdotes about dietary practices within Jewish culture, including the well-known prohibition against pork, and expressed surprise at the lack of awareness regarding these restrictions in a diverse city like New York. The conversation touched on the historical roots of Jewish dietary laws, suggesting they originated from health concerns, such as the risks associated with eating pork. Participants also noted the complexities of kosher dietary practices, including the separation of meat and dairy, and the cultural significance of food during religious holidays. The thread concluded with lighthearted banter about food safety and dietary habits, reinforcing the importance of understanding and respecting different cultural practices.
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This was just too delicious to pass over.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22147407"
 
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Bad link!
 
:smile: Whoops!

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:smile: As a Jewish friend of mine would say, "If God didn't want Jews to eat pork, why did He make bacon so tasty?"

My brother-in-law only tosses out that dietary law when we propose cooking Christmas ham, because he doesn't like ham (he does NOT keep kosher, and has no problem eating bacon or pork chops, but that doesn't stop him from using the excuse against ham).

Laughing at what you titled the link too...my dad used to tell the story of when he was young and naive about different religions, he went to a Jewish deli, and after ordering a nice roast beef sandwich (or something like that), his mischievous friend who brought them there suggested he make sure to have their coffee with milk to go with the sandwich.
 
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A luxury grocery store in Manhattan made a food faux pas, advertising hams as "Delicious for Chanukah."
How could anyone in New York City not be aware of Jewish dietary restrictions? North Dakota perhaps, not NY!

Anyway, I am probably the only Roman Catholic with a Jewish Godfather. (apparently only one godparent has to be Catholic). Also my Uncle (married to my mother's sister is Jewish, so it's a mixed family. My first husband's step mother was Jewish, his dad married the mother of his brother's wife. She was the BEST COOK in the world! I treasure the recipes I learned from her.

So to anyone of Jewish faith Happy Hanukkah!
 
jimmysnyder said:
This was just too delicious to pass over.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22147407"

Hidden pun alert!
 
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Evo said:
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A luxury grocery store in Manhattan made a food faux pas, advertising hams as "Delicious for Chanukah."
Could Chanukah be a pun word (CHristmas + HANUKAH)? Or is it merely a different spelling for Hanukah?

[Apologies for ignorance of/confusion about popular religious references.]
 
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EnumaElish said:
Could Chanukah be a pun word (CHristmas + HANUKAH)? Or is it merely a different spelling for Hanukah?
It's an alternative spelling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah
 
I like the comments on the blog that first shared the story, especially the one pointing out it could be worse...they could have been selling bacon-wrapped scallops. :smile:

http://nancykayshapiro.livejournal.com/35633.html?thread=54321

She reports all the signs now say "Delicious for the Holidays." Should we send gravenewworld after them next? They should at least be fair and offend everyone equally...I see they haven't tried selling them for Ramadan yet. :biggrin:
 
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Jennifer Barton, director of marketing, told The Associated Press on Thursday that the signs were changed as soon as the error was noted.

She issued an apology on the company Web site, saying the company would be reviewing its employee training.

Day 1 of employee training worksheet:
List as many dietary requirements of the following religions/holidays as you can (1 pt each)
Beltane
Bet Hashem
Beth El Shaddai
Beth HaShem
Bhagavad-Gita:
Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh:
Bhakti Yoga
Cabalah
Christadelphianism
Dungeons and Dragons
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Day 1 of employee training worksheet:
List as many dietary requirements of the following religions/holidays as you can (1 pt each)
...
Dungeons and Dragons

:smile:

I don't know how someone in NYC doesn't know about Jewish dietary restrictions either...I thought the pork restriction was the best known of them (not sure if the shellfish restrictions, or prohibitions of mixing meat and dairy are quite as well known to everyone).
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Day 1 of employee training worksheet:
List as many dietary requirements of the following religions/holidays as you can (1 pt each)
Beltane
Bet Hashem
Beth El Shaddai
Beth HaShem
Bhagavad-Gita:
Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh:
Bhakti Yoga
Cabalah
Christadelphianism
Dungeons and Dragons
:smile: But even I, growing up in Texas, knew that Jewish people didn't eat pork.

Knowing that they can't mix meat with dairy or that orthodox Jews can't have any shellfish may not be so widely known.

A couple of years ago New York's water system became contaminated with a microscopic form of shellfish and there was an uproar in the Othodox Jewish community, the water wasn't Kosher.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/nyregion/07filter.html
 
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So how did these eating fads start?
 
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wolram said:
So how did these eating fads start?

Way back in Leviticus in the Old Testament, there's a chapter about what is clean and unclean to eat. Jewish dietary law takes those proscriptions literally. If the store was really up on their dietary laws, they'd have offered up a lovely dish of locust and grasshoppers as perfect for Hannukah. :rolleyes:
 
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wolram said:
So how did these eating fads start?
My opinion, from studying the roots, and we know how valuable my opinion is, is that it was basic health 101. Pork has always been known for carrying trichinosis, of course back then they didn't know it was trichinosis. It would be sensical to ban eating it since people would get sick after eating pork, they had no idea that it could be prevented by consistent cooking at a certain temperature, they didn't have thermostats. All of the the laws to do with kosher food prevents common problems with food born toxins and hygiene. Also their laws on cleaniness in general all have practical roots in not spreading contamination.

Their rituals for cleansing bedding and bathing were incredible.
 
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Amazing that a food fad can be traced back to biblical times and that it had a logical reason.
Right now i have a belly ache from eating a meat pie, i hope i don't have gastric conjunctivitus.
 
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You're expecting to contract pink-eye from a stomach ailment? OK. Better watch out for brain cancer caused by eating organ-meats. Could happen you know.:rolleyes:
 
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turbo-1 said:
You're expecting to contract pink-eye from a stomach ailment? OK. Better watch out for brain cancer caused by eating organ-meats. Could happen you know.:rolleyes:


I never eat innards so i will not get bovine spongiform encephalopathy.
 
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wolram said:
I never eat innards so i will not get bovine spongiform encephalopathy.
Actually, it's the meat nearest the bone that is to be avoided. That is why it is not safe to eat generic ground beef. You should grind your own from meat you know has no bone marrow in it if you fear mad cow disease.
 
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Evo said:
Actually, it's the meat nearest the bone that is to be avoided. That is why it is not safe to eat generic ground beef. You should grind your own from meat you know has no bone marrow in it if you fear mad cow disease.


I love T bone steak rare, D & B it i have avoided the rong bits.
 
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wolram said:
So how did these eating fads start?
Not fads, laws. Like Islam, Judaism has a strong legal aspect to it. A portion of Jesus' ministry was a reaction to this. Around the laws in Scripture, Jews have added interpretations of the law in the Talmud and other books. There is even a body of case law as in modern secular legal systems. The scriptural prohibition is against boiling a kid in the milk of its mother. This may have meant something quite specific to its original hearers. Apparently it describes a ceremony in another religion centered around the god Baal. In that religion child sacrifice and temple prostitution were practiced. For these reasons scriptural reaction against it was strong. However, knowledge of this ceremony was lost at the time that the interpretations were being written and prohibitions against eating meat and dairy in the same meal were put in place to "put a fence around the law" That is, you shouldn't fall over the fence, but if you do, at least you haven't fallen over the cliff. None the less, this prohibition is taken quite seriously by observant Jews who have two separate sets of dishes, or even two kitchens. This sale is obviously geared towards those who have three sets of dishes. fleishe, mIlche, and trafe (Meat, dairy, and non-Kosher). Merry Hannukah all.
 
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wolram said:
i hope i don't have gastric conjunctivitus.
Don't worry, you don't. Conjunctivitis is not a disease of the but.
 
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jimmysnyder said:
Don't worry, you don't. Conjunctivitis is not a disease of the but.
Wouldn't that depend on where his head's been? :-p
 
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Evo said:
Wouldn't that depend on where his head's been? :-p
Ooh! Do I sense volcano-bait?:rolleyes:
 

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