Wiring a Rectifier for Aquariumlet Light Setup

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The discussion revolves around wiring a rectifier for an aquariumlet light setup, specifically focusing on the integration of a CPU cooling fan with a standard puck light set. Participants explore the requirements for connecting the fan to the rectified output of the light's transformer, including considerations for voltage stabilization and component selection.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their setup, noting the transformer outputs 12V 0.5A and expresses uncertainty about the suitability of the bridge rectifier they purchased.
  • Another participant suggests that a capacitor is typically used to stabilize voltage but indicates it may not be necessary for a motor like the CPU fan.
  • A participant clarifies that the rectifier should have four pins and discusses the labeling of the pins, expressing uncertainty about the configuration.
  • Some participants argue against the need for a capacitor when running a 12V DC motor, suggesting that the rectified voltage may be too high if a capacitor is used.
  • One participant proposes measuring the actual motor current to determine if a series resistor is needed to drop the voltage, while also noting their lack of personal experience with running a DC motor on rectified AC.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a capacitor is not necessary for the motor, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of the rectified voltage and whether a resistor is needed. The discussion remains unresolved on the specifics of voltage management for the motor.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the exact output voltage from the transformer and the implications of using a capacitor or resistor in the circuit. There are also assumptions regarding the characteristics of the rectifier and the motor's tolerance to voltage variations.

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I'm wiring my aquariumlet up for light. It's one of those standard 3x20W puck light sets, but I only need one light. I want to wire up a cooling fan using one of the other light terminals.

The light set has a transformer that outputs 12V 0.5A, and each puck is 20W max.

My CPU cooling fan wants 12VDC 0.08A.

Presumably, the light is AC, so I've got me a bridge rectifier. I'm not sure I got the right one, it was what the guy behind the counter recommended based on my needs.

It says:

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W02G
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Even if it's not perfect, he says I likely won't burn it out.

He also said though, that it will likely put out something closer to 14V.

So: do I need anythnig else for this circuit? A resistor?
 
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If you are connecting a CPU fan then that's all you need. I assume the rectifier has four pins. Two pins are for AC input, and plus-minus pins for the rectified output. To stabilize the voltage coming out of the rectifier it is customary to put a capacitor across the output. But for a motor that's not necessary.
 
what said:
If you are connecting a CPU fan then that's all you need.

I assume the rectifier has four pins. Two pins are for AC input, and plus-minus pins for the rectified output.
Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. One pin is labelled +. If I call that North, then pins E and W seem to be labelled with a vertical ~. And the south pin is not labelled. The North-West edge of the otherwise-round rectifier is flat (like a transisitor).

what said:
To stabilize the voltage coming out of the rectifier it is customary to put a capacitor across the output. But for a motor that's not necessary.
Oh. I thought maybe the rectifier included the capacitor. Cool. I'll need to figure out what size cap.
 
You don't need the cap for a motor. And if the transformer output is 12-14 Vac, then a cap will get you 16-19 Vdc. You're better off without the cap for running a 12Vdc motor.
 
Redbelly98 said:
You don't need the cap for a motor. And if the transformer output is 12-14 Vac, then a cap will get you 16-19 Vdc. You're better off without the cap for running a 12Vdc motor.
OK.

What about input vs output wattage? Do I need a resistor in there?
 
Hi Dave,

Since the failure mode for a motor would be overheating, as opposed to electrical arcing, I think that rectified 12Vrms should be safe for a 12Vdc rated motor.

If it turns out to be 14 Vrms you may be pushing things and a series resistor would drop that voltage down. Suggest you measure actual motor current, then choose appropriate resistor for a 2V drop (or whatever drop you need). 1/2W power rating will suffice for up to about 5V drop, for 0.08 A current.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually run a DC motor on rectified AC myself. Others, feel free to chime in here (agree or disagree with my reasoning in 1st paragraph?)

Regards,

Mark
 

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