With what minimal horizontal velocity can you throw a stone

In summary, the conversation discusses the minimal horizontal velocity required to throw a stone from position A to fly over position B, with a distance of 40m between them and A being at a height of 20m and B at a height of 10m. The person attempted to solve the problem by taking the distance as 41m and using basic velocity equations, but it was pointed out that this is not correct as the stone's size and shape are unknown. The solution is to use the given 40m and find a speed that exceeds it, as it is a mathematical game where certain details are ignored.
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goku12
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Homework Statement


With what minimal horizontal velocity can you throw a stone from position A so it it manages to fly over position B.

the distance between A and B is 40m
the height of position A is 20m
the height of position B is 10m

Homework Equations

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The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to solve it by making the distance 41m getting the time then solved basic velocity equation and got 28.67m/s, but that probably isn't correct
 
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Hello goku, :welcome:

What is your question ?
 
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Pls give is the exact question as or would be easier.. Consider reading guidelines for other information
 
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goku12 said:
I have tried to solve it by making the distance 41m getting the time then solved basic velocity equation and got 28.67m/s, but that probably isn't correct
Yes, probably not correct. Can you please show the details of the calculations that you attempted?
 
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gneill said:
Yes, probably not correct. Can you please show the details of the calculations that you attempted?
not much but here
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Your working looks fine to me.
The issue is in taking the horizontal distance as 41m. This is arbitrary. Since you don't know the size or shape of the stone you can't know how much clearance to give. You just have to work with the given 40m and say that it has to go further than that. Maybe only by 1mm or maybe even less. So using 40m gives you a speed which you must exceed. That's all you can say.

It's a bit of a mathematical game: you make a "model" - an idealised situation where you ignore some inconvenient or unknown details. Positions and objects become "points" with no size. Here the stone would hit B at 28m/s, but miss at any greater speed.
 

1. What is the concept of minimal horizontal velocity?

The concept of minimal horizontal velocity refers to the lowest amount of velocity required to propel an object horizontally. In the context of throwing a stone, it is the minimum speed needed to launch the stone and have it travel in a straight line without falling to the ground immediately.

2. How is minimal horizontal velocity calculated?

The calculation of minimal horizontal velocity depends on various factors, such as the mass and shape of the stone, the distance it needs to travel, and the gravitational force acting on it. It can be calculated using the equation v = √(d * g), where v is the minimal horizontal velocity, d is the distance, and g is the gravitational force (9.8 m/s² on Earth).

3. Can minimal horizontal velocity be different for different objects?

Yes, the minimal horizontal velocity can vary for different objects depending on their mass, shape, and other physical properties. For example, a heavier and more aerodynamic stone may require a higher minimal horizontal velocity to travel the same distance as a lighter and less aerodynamic stone.

4. What happens if the stone is thrown with a velocity lower than the minimal horizontal velocity?

If the stone is thrown with a velocity lower than the minimal horizontal velocity, it will not be able to travel in a straight line and will fall to the ground at a certain point. This is because the gravitational force will act on the stone and pull it downwards, causing it to follow a curved path rather than a straight one.

5. Is it possible to throw a stone with a velocity higher than the minimal horizontal velocity?

Yes, it is possible to throw a stone with a velocity higher than the minimal horizontal velocity. In this case, the stone will travel further than the intended distance, as it will have more velocity to overcome the gravitational force and continue moving horizontally. However, it may also be affected by other external forces, such as air resistance, which can alter its trajectory.

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