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This thread centers around the daily Wordle game from the New York Times, where participants share their results, strategies, and experiences. The discussion includes personal anecdotes, strategies for guessing words, and reflections on the game's impact on cognitive skills.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants share their Wordle results, indicating varying levels of success, with scores ranging from 1 to 6 attempts.
  • Several users discuss their strategies for choosing starting words, with mentions of specific words like 'EARLY', 'PIOUS', and 'ADIEU'.
  • One participant notes the surprising number of five-letter words in English and reflects on the difficulty of the game.
  • There are personal anecdotes about family members' engagement with word games, including Wordle, Sudoku, and crosswords.
  • Some participants express a competitive spirit in playing Wordle with partners or family members.
  • Discussion includes a comparison of Wordle to other games, such as Mastermind, highlighting differences in gameplay mechanics.
  • Participants speculate on the timing of Wordle updates and how it may vary based on local time zones and device settings.
  • One user shares their experience playing Wordle in both English and Spanish, noting differences in guessing success rates.
  • There are corrections and clarifications regarding the validity of certain word guesses, such as 'FHLMN'.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions and experiences regarding strategies and the nature of the game, with no clear consensus on the best approaches or the implications of playing Wordle on cognitive skills.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the game's rules and the validity of word guesses, which may not be universally agreed upon. There are also references to personal experiences that may not apply to all players.

Who May Find This Useful

This thread may be of interest to fans of word games, particularly those who enjoy sharing strategies and results, as well as those curious about the social dynamics of competitive gameplay.

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Wordle 1,361 4/6

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  • #6,572
Wordle 1,362 4/6

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  • #6,573
Wordle 1 362 4/6

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Bad luck on this one. Third guess was between what I used and the solution. Both perfect filters among 5 words along with MANGY.
 
  • #6,574
Wordle 1,362 3/6

🟨⬛⬛⬛⬛ [ARISE] 63 left
⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛ [CLINT] filter - 6 left: BANJO GONAD MANGO MANGY NOMAD PAGAN
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [MANGO] filter - As opposed to @Orodruin , I was lucky!
 
  • #6,575
jack action said:
Wordle 1,362 3/6

🟨⬛⬛⬛⬛ [ARISE] 63 left
⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛ [CLINT] filter - 6 left: BANJO GONAD MANGO MANGY NOMAD PAGAN
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [MANGO] filter - As opposed to @Orodruin , I was lucky!
Well ... you managed to eliminate my third guess (TANGO) with your second guess ...
 
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DRATS! Had I waited for @Orodruin 's spreadsheet to finish its work, its choice for my second word would have left only the solution, and hence, the game in 3. Though I'm not sure if that's just a fluke/feature of the spreadsheet whereby it limits the number of words analyzed to 103, and my choice, SOUTH, was eliminated.

OmCheeto method
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ FILER 145 left
⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛ SOUTH 5 left: BANJO, ANNOY, KNOWN,
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨 AMONG 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 MANGO


Orodruin method, with word limit feature
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ FILER 145 left
🟩🟨⬛⬛⬛ MOUTH 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 MANGO


So it would have just been dumb luck to get it in 3, as I believe SOUTH was statistically the better choice.

ps. My current set of 26 seed words are all anagrams from my top 100 ranked seed words.
 
  • #6,577
Whew.

Wordle 1,362 3/6

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  • #6,578
OmCheeto said:
DRATS! Had I waited for @Orodruin 's spreadsheet to finish its work, its choice for my second word would have left only the solution, and hence, the game in 3. Though I'm not sure if that's just a fluke/feature of the spreadsheet whereby it limits the number of words analyzed to 103, and my choice, SOUTH, was eliminated.

OmCheeto method
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ FILER 145 left
⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛ SOUTH 5 left: BANJO, ANNOY, KNOWN,
🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨 AMONG 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 MANGO


Orodruin method, with word limit feature
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ FILER 145 left
🟩🟨⬛⬛⬛ MOUTH 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 MANGO


So it would have just been dumb luck to get it in 3, as I believe SOUTH was statistically the better choice.

ps. My current set of 26 seed words are all anagrams from my top 100 ranked seed words.
Why use a seed word including F, such a rare occurring letter?

Keeping all other letters - among the possible answers - PLIER, PERIL, IDLER would give better results. Even RIFLE would have been slightly better than FILER!

Getting out of the possible answers and just changing the first letter, OILER, TILER, SILER, PILER, MILER should have given better results.(not tested though)
 
  • #6,579
Wordle 1,363 2/6

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All luck. Only two choices after the seed.
 
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Wordle 1 363 3/6

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OmCheeto said:
Wordle 1,363 2/6

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All luck. Only two choices after the seed.
Three here. Was between my second guess and the solution … again …
 
  • #6,581
Wordle 1,363 2/6

🟨⬛⬛🟩🟩 [ARISE] 3 left: CEASE CHASE LEASE
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [CHASE] most probable

There are 3 equally valid filters remaining. It's an ideal game to test the most-probable method. The presence of the H did it for me.

most-probable method count update (Success/Fail): 66/35 - 65.3%/34.7%
 
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Wordle 1,363 3/6

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Wordle 1 364 3/6

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  • #6,584
Wordle 1,364 4/6

⬛⬛🟩⬛⬛ STEAL 18 left
⬛🟨🟨⬛⬛ DECRY 3 left: BEECH,
⬛🟩🟩🟩🟩 NIECE
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  • #6,585
Wordle 1,364 3/6

⬛⬛🟨⬛🟩 [ARISE] 9 left: BIBLE BILGE CUTIE DIODE GENIE IMBUE LIEGE NIECE PIECE
⬛🟩🟩⬛🟩 [LIEGE] filter - 2 left: NIECE PIECE
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [PIECE] most probable (because of the P)

most-probable method count update (Success/Fail): 67/35 - 65.7%/34.3%
 
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Wordle 1,364 5/6

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  • #6,587
jack action said:
Wordle 1,364 3/6

⬛⬛🟨⬛🟩 [ARISE] 9 left: BIBLE BILGE CUTIE DIODE GENIE IMBUE LIEGE NIECE PIECE
⬛🟩🟩⬛🟩 [LIEGE] filter - 2 left: NIECE PIECE
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [PIECE] most probable (because of the P)

most-probable method count update (Success/Fail): 67/35 - 65.7%/34.3%
Well dag nabbit, had Orodruin and I realized that your most Probable method indicated that 'P' takes Precedence over other letters, we'd both have shaved a guess off our lists.
 
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  • #6,588
OmCheeto said:
Well dag nabbit, had Orodruin and I realized that your most Probable method indicated that 'P' takes Precedence over other letters, we'd both have shaved a guess off our lists.
No, you would not have, because the N was a popular letter that would have helped you eliminate an answer. I also hesitated between your second guess and mine. But once stuck choosing between P and N only, the choice was obvious to me. P is less popular than N, so it was the "challenging" letter of the word. There seem to always be one lately.

With this method, having 67 successes out of 102 trials (and the percentage doesn't change much the further I test it), there is only about a 1 in 1003 odd that you can get at least this outcome with a perfectly random coin toss. I guess I'm doing something right.
 
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Wordle 1 365 3/6

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jack action said:
With this method, having 67 successes out of 102 trials (and the percentage doesn't change much the further I test it), there is only about a 1 in 1003 odd that you can get at least this outcome with a perfectly random coin toss. I guess I'm doing something right.
The issue I have is that you seem to have a lot of internal rules that differ wildly from case to case. Ranging from ”contains P” to ”is a positive sounding word” (sometimes debatably so). This makes it all seem pretty arbitrary.

What you have shown is that something you are doing is singling out correct solutions more often than not. The problem is we don’t know which part it is (or if there are several factors) until you can break the data down for different causes.
 
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Orodruin said:
The issue I have is that you seem to have a lot of internal rules that differ wildly from case to case. Ranging from ”contains P” to ”is a positive sounding word” (sometimes debatably so). This makes it all seem pretty arbitrary.

What you have shown is that something you are doing is singling out correct solutions more often than not. The problem is we don’t know which part it is (or if there are several factors) until you can break the data down for different causes.
The key is to imagine that the word is selected by a human being. Every human has a pattern. The pattern can change, but there is still one. The pattern may change because the human was changed. It doesn't matter.

Contrary to other Wordle puzzles found on other sites, the word is obviously not chosen arbitrarily by an algorithm. That is the point I'm trying to prove.
 
  • #6,592
Wordle 1,365 3/6

⬛⬛🟨⬛🟩 SPARE 17 left
🟩🟩⬛⬛⬛ LANCH 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 LADLE
 
  • #6,593
Wordle 1,365 4/6

🟨⬛⬛⬛🟩 [ARISE] 16 left
⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛ [GLINT] filter - 3 left: FABLE LADLE VALVE
⬛🟩⬛🟩🟩 [FABLE] most probable - 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [LADLE]

Although LADLE has two Ls that makes it a little challenging, I went with FABLE with the rarely occurring F. Why not VALVE with its Vs? They don't like mechanical/electrical/electronic part terms, anything too technical for the average Joe. (I noticed that because those are the words that speak to me and they never get picked.)

most-probable method count update (Success/Fail): 67/36 - 65.0%/35.0%
 
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  • #6,594
Lucky guess

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Wordle 1,366 3/6

🟨🟨⬛🟨⬛ PARSE 7 left
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ CLOWN 1 left. Modified Orodruin method.
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 STAMP
 
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Wordle 1,366 4/6

🟨⬛⬛🟨⬛ [ARISE] 30 left
⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛ [CLYPE] filter - 4 left: SPANK SPAWN STAMP SWAMP
🟩⬛🟩🟩🟩 [SWAMP] filter - 1 left
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 [STAMP]
 
  • #6,597
whew. Just throwing words at the wall. :smile:

Wordle 1,366 6/6

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Wordle 1,367 3/6

⬛⬛⬛🟩⬛ RINSE 22 left
⬛🟨⬛🟩⬛ PLUSH 1 left: Orodruin/jack action/OmCheeto hybrid method
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 LASSO
 
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Wordle 1 367 3/6

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Wordle 1,367 3/6

🟨⬛⬛🟩⬛ [ARISE] 13 left
🟩⬛⬛⬛⬛ [LYMPH] filter - 1 left
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