Work done by a spring when stretched

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The problem involves calculating the work done to stretch an ideal spring with a given spring constant. The original poster attempts to apply the formula for work done on a spring but encounters confusion regarding the sign in the equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the work formula, questioning the necessity of the negative sign in the context of work done on the spring versus the work done by the spring. There are references to potential energy changes and the relationship between work and energy in conservative systems.

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The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the work done on versus by the spring. Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the signs in the equations and the nature of energy stored in the spring, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are navigating the nuances of the formula for work done on a spring, including the implications of signs and the definitions of potential energy in the context of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's misunderstanding of the question being asked.

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I have a simple problem that i can't seem to get right.

An ideal spring has a spring constant k = 22.0 N/m. What is the amount of work that must be done to stretch the spring 0.70 m from its relaxed length?

I tried W = (-)1/2 k x^2
= - (.5)(22.0) (.7^2)
= -5.39
but this isn't correct any suggestions.

Thanks
 
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Why do you have a minus sign?
 
Thanks, I had the minus sign because that is how the formula is in the book.
 
bobby3280 said:
Thanks, I had the minus sign because that is how the formula is in the book.

Since this is a conservative system, the work done from point 1 to 2 equals the change of potential energy, i.e. W = V2 - V1. In your case V1 = 0 (the spring is relaxed), so W = V2, hence, there should not be any minus sign involved in the book.
 
bobby3280 said:
Thanks, I had the minus sign because that is how the formula is in the book.
The formula for what? The energy stored in a spring equals 1/2kx^2 (no minus sign).
 
Um there is usually a minus sign isn't there? Because that equation is found by taking the intergral of Hooke's Law.

| means sigma for this because I can't find how to type it lol...


F=-Kx
W=|(fx)(dx)
W=|(-kx)(dx)
W=|-K(x^2/2)(dx)
W=-1/2Kx^2

I think that is right. And it makes sense because the work done by a spring is negative because it opposes an objects displacement.
 
Realize that the work done by the spring is the negative of the work required to stretch it (which was the question in this thread, despite the title). The work required to stretch (or compress) a spring is positive; the energy stored in a stretched (or compressed) spring is positive.
 
Oh, well that makes more sense. Didn't realize what was being asked.
 

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