Work done by electric field to move capacitor plate

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The discussion revolves around the work done by an electric field when moving capacitor plates and how changes in capacitance affect voltage. It is noted that voltage changes according to the relationship between charge and capacitance, but the context—whether the capacitor is isolated or connected to a constant voltage source—remains ambiguous. The equation for energy stored in a capacitor is presented, highlighting the importance of understanding the system's conditions. Participants emphasize the need for clarity in the problem statement to accurately analyze the scenario. Overall, the conversation underscores the complexities of capacitor behavior in varying conditions.
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Homework Statement
two capacitor plates separated by a distance d are moved closer to each other by a distance ε<<d due to their mutual attraction. Find the work done by the electric field in the process and also the energy lost by the field
Relevant Equations
energy U=1/2(AV^2ε0)(1/d)
where A is the area of each plate and V is the voltage
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so the result I got is the energy lost by the field right??
 
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When the capacitance changes, what happens to the Voltage?

Also, it's good to learn to post using LaTeX to help make your math equations easier to read. You can click the "LaTeX Guide" link below the Edit window to see how it's done. The basics are pretty easy to learn. :smile:

$$W_i = \frac{\epsilon_0 A {V_i}^2}{2d}$$
 
(You can click the Reply link in my post above to see the LaTeX that I used. For stand-along lines use $$ before and after the LaTeX. For in-line math, use ## before and after.) :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Also, it's good to learn to post using LaTeX to help make your math equations easier to read. You can click the "LaTeX Guide" link below the Edit window to see how it's done. The basics are pretty easy to learn. :smile:
yes I will, I just joined today. I will get to it as soon as possible
berkeman said:
When the capacitance changes, what happens to the Voltage?
voltage will also change, by the relation c=q/v
 
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The problem doesn't directly state whether or not the capacitor is isolated or connected to a constant source voltage (to maintain a constant potential difference as the plates are moved). The relevant equation intimates that the voltage is held constant, but as it is a relevant equation and not part of the problem statement itself, I think this makes the question a bit ambiguous.

If the capacitor is taken to be isolated, perhaps looking at its stored energy in terms of constant charge on the plates would be more appropriate?
 
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