Work Done by Varying Force: Is Angle Constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of work done by a varying force on a particle, specifically addressing whether the angle between the force and displacement remains constant during the process. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to integration in physics.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that calculating work involves multiplying the force magnitude by displacement and the cosine of the angle, questioning if this assumes a constant angle when integrating for varying forces.
  • Another participant suggests that taking the integral of the scalar product accounts for the angle between force and displacement, implying that the angle can vary.
  • A participant presents a scenario with a constant force acting at varying angles, questioning how to compute work if the angle changes, indicating confusion about the implications of a changing angle on the scalar product.
  • One response emphasizes the need to integrate over the path of action, suggesting that work is calculated by summing contributions over infinitesimal segments of the path.
  • A participant asks if this topic relates to line integrals, indicating a connection to more advanced mathematical concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of the angle in the calculation of work done by varying forces. There is no consensus on whether the angle can be assumed constant or how to handle its variability in calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding how to integrate work when angles change, as well as the challenges of performing such calculations analytically versus numerically.

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When you calculate the work done by a force on a particle, you multiply the magnitude of the force by the displacement and the cosine of the angle between them. If it's a varying force, in one dimension, you take the integral from the initial position to final position. Does this integral assume that the angle of the force is constant? What if it varies?
 
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Take the integral of the scalar product, this includes the angle between force and displacement.
 
So if a CONSTANT force of 10N acts on a body for 10m but the angle changes from 0 to 45 degrees then to compute it, that's all you would have to do?

If the angle of changing, the scalar (dot?) product is always changing isn't it? I can't see how this is taken into account
 
You need to Integrate over the path of the action, as stated above. This involves adding the work done over infinitessimal portions of the path. If the path shape makes it hard to integrate analytically then you can do it numerically, breaking the path down into small straight lines.
 
Does this have to do with line integrals?
 
Sure does. Merry Christmas.
 
Thanks, you too. I'll work out things from here xD
 

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