Work done during quasi-static, isothermal expansion from P_i to P_f

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of work done during a quasi-static, isothermal expansion from initial pressure P_i to final pressure P_f. The original calculation used the integral of pressure with respect to volume, leading to a work expression of W=nRT ln(P_f/P_i). However, the calculated value of -7294 J differs significantly from the book's answer of -3.17 x 10^3 J, prompting a review of the conversion of temperature to Kelvin. A participant points out a typo in the equation for volume, clarifying that the correct equation should be V=nRT/P, not V=-nRT/P. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful unit conversion and correct application of the ideal gas law.
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Homework Statement
(a) Show that the work done by an ideal gas during the quasi-static, isothermal expansion from an initial pressure ##P_i## to a final pressure ##P_f## is given by

$$W=nRT\ln\frac{P_f}{P_i}$$

(b) Calculate the work done when the pressure of 1 mol of an ideal gas is decreased quasi-statically from 20 to 1 atm, the temperature remaining constant at ##20^{\circ} C## (##R=8.31 J/mol\cdot deg##).
Relevant Equations
##W=-\int_{V_i}^{V_f} PdV##
I am posting this question after I thought I had easily solved the problem, but then when I checked the back of the book I saw that I was incorrect.

Here is what I did.

(a)

$$W=-\int_{V_i}^{V_f} PdV\tag{1}$$

$$V=V(P,T)-\frac{nRT}{P}\tag{2}$$

$$dV=\left ( \frac{\partial V}{\partial P}\right )_T dP+\left ( \frac{\partial V}{\partial T} \right )_P dT\tag{3}$$

$$=\frac{-nRT}{P^2}dP\tag{4}$$

Now we plug (4) into (1)

$$W=\int_{P_i}^{P_f} \frac{nRT}{P}dP=nRT\ln{\frac{P_f}{P_i}}\tag{5}$$

(b)

At this point I simply plugged the values into (5)

$$W=1\text{mol}\cdot 8.31 \mathrm{\frac{J}{mol ^\circ C}}\cdot 20^{\circ} \text{C}\cdot \ln{\frac{1\text{atm}}{20\text{atm}}}\tag{6}$$

$$=-7294\text{J}\tag{7}$$

The book answer says ##-3.17\times 10^3## J.
 
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zenterix said:
(b)

At this point I simply plugged the values into (5)

$$W=1\text{mol}\cdot 8.31 \mathrm{\frac{J}{mol ^\circ C}}\cdot 20^{\circ} \text{C}\cdot \ln{\frac{1\text{atm}}{20\text{atm}}}\tag{6}$$

$$=-7294\text{J}\tag{7}$$

The book answer says ##-3.17\times 10^3## J.
Be careful: indicate that you converted the 20 °C to kelvin. Otherwise, I get the same answer as you.
 
zenterix said:
$$W=-\int_{V_i}^{V_f} PdV\tag{1}$$

$$V=V(P,T)-\frac{nRT}{P}\tag{2}$$
Where did you get Eqn. 2 from?

Incidentally, you could have done the initial derivation differently by using the product rule for differentiation: $$PdV=d(PV)-VdP$$At constant temperature, d(PV)=nRdT=0, so, at constant temperature, $$PdV=-VdP=-\frac{nRT}{P}dp$$
 
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DrClaude said:
Be careful: indicate that you converted the 20 °C to kelvin. Otherwise, I get the same answer as you.
Indeed, I did use Kelvin.
 
Chestermiller said:
Where did you get Eqn. 2 from?

Incidentally, you could have done the initial derivation differently by using the product rule for differentiation: $$PdV=d(PV)-VdP$$At constant temperature, d(PV)=nRdT=0, so, at constant temperature, $$PdV=-VdP=-\frac{nRT}{P}dp$$
Equation 2 comes from the equation of state for ideal gases. I think you may be asking because of the typo I have in that equation.

It should be

$$V=V(P,T)=\frac{nRT}{P}$$

I accidentally had a minus sign in place of the second equals sign.
 
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