Work done - moving a charge in an electric field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done in moving a charge within an electric field, specifically in spherical coordinates. The problem involves a charge of 10 µC and an electric field defined in terms of spherical coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the integral for work done and question the coordinate system of the electric field. There are attempts to clarify the setup and the expressions used for the electric field and the work integral.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the implications of the electric field being conservative and how it affects the path of integration. Some hints have been provided regarding the nature of the electric field and its components, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution.

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There is a mention of a reference book providing an answer that differs from the calculations being attempted. Participants are also considering the implications of the electric field's behavior at the origin and the potential for infinite values.

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work done -- moving a charge in an electric field

Homework Statement


Q=10uC from origin to (3m,pi/4,pi/2) E=10r unit r + 5/(rsin(theta) unit phi V/m

answer is -475uJ

I found this problem in a reference book that gave answers, this problem is similar to a homework problem.


Homework Equations



w = -q ∫ E*dl or w = 1/2 integral (εE^2) dv

The Attempt at a Solution



w= -10x10-6 ∫ 10rdr + 5d(phi)
 
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cutesteph said:

Homework Statement


Q=10uC from origin to (3m,pi/4,pi/2) E=10r unit r + 5/(rsin(theta) unit phi V/m

answer is -475uJ

I found this problem in a reference book that gave answers, this problem is similar to a homework problem.


Homework Equations



w = -q ∫ E*dl or w = 1/2 integral (εE^2) dv

The Attempt at a Solution



w= -10x10-6 ∫ 10rdr + 5d(phi)

Could you please clarify the question a bit? When you give the electric field, is that in spherical or rectangular coordinates? Would it be possible to scan the problem and upload it into this thread?
 
The problem is in spherical coordinates.

My work is w = -10x10^-6 ( 20( sqrt(exp(1) -1) +10 pi/2 = 5.736 uJ , which is incorrect from the answer in the book.
 
I am not sure what I am doing wrong, dL = dr (unit r) + r dtheta (unit theta) + r sin theta d phi (unit phi) .
E=10r (unit r) + 5/[(rsin(theta)] (unit phi) V/m

so integral of work = q * (10r dr + r phi dphi )

from origin 0,0,0 to 3, pi/4, pi /2 so r goes 0 to 2 theta goes 0 to pi/4 and phi goes 0 to pi/2
 
Are you sure about the second term in the E field expression? Because that implies an infinite E field at the origin.

Anyway, two hints:

1. the E field is conservative so what does that tell you about the path of integration?

2. You can split the E field into two fields, corresponding to the two terms, and use superposition. Then go back to hint #1.

I assume theta is the angle with the z axis and phi is the azimuth angle, and that you're giving the final position as (r, theta, phi).

(My answer is close to -475 uJ but not quite.)
 
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Since E is conservative, the path of integration does not matter.
 
cutesteph said:
Since E is conservative, the path of integration does not matter.

Right. So what path would you take for E dot dl?
 

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