Work-energy problems on a slope

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A box of 2 kg is projected up a slope at 30 degrees with an initial speed of 6 m/s, and the coefficient of friction is 1/3. The work-energy principle is applied to calculate the distance traveled before the box comes to rest, resulting in a distance of 1.43 m. The discussion clarifies that the work done against gravity is accounted for in the change of potential energy, while the work against friction is calculated separately. It emphasizes the importance of understanding the physics behind the equations, rather than just the mathematical calculations. The conversation also introduces a related question about an object's motion in the opposite direction.
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Homework Statement


A box of 2Kg is projected with a speed of 6m/s up a slope at 30* to horizontal. The coeffiecient of friction is 1/3. Use the work energy principle tp calculate the distance traveled by the box before coming to rest.


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When you calculate the work done against friction, why don't you take into account the 2gsin30 force acting downwards and only use Fmax? Surely the force acting on the box is both?


The Attempt at a Solution


KE lost = 0.5 x 2 x 36 = 36J
PE gained = 2 x 9.8 x dsin30 = 9.8d

Work done against friction = Fd = (2gsin30 + 1/3 x 2gcos30) x d= 15.46d
Work done = total loss of energy
15.46d = 36 - 9.8d
d=1.43m
 
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jenny egner said:
When you calculate the work done against friction, why don't you take into account the 2gsin30 force acting downwards and only use Fmax? Surely the force acting on the box is both?

Because the work done against gravity is already taken into account by the change in potential energy.
 
Yeah you actually have it wrong. Work done against friction is
Wf=1/3 * 2gcos30 * d
and work done against gravity is
Wg=2g*d*sin30
which gives you the total work you found. You did it right mathematically, but wrong physically. Doing the physics right is more important than doing the math right.

Also keep in mind that work energy theorem states that change in work equals change in energy, not energy lost equals work done (this is something that is relative).
 
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