Working on high voltage power lines

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The discussion revolves around the safety measures employed by workers who must perform maintenance on live high voltage power lines. Participants explore the principles of electrical safety and the conditions under which current flows, particularly in relation to potential differences.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of protective rubber gloves and question whether additional safety measures are necessary for high voltage work. There is also a query regarding why birds can sit on power lines without getting electrocuted, leading to further exploration of grounding and potential differences.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the mechanics of electrical safety and the behavior of birds on power lines. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions that prevent electrocution, but no consensus has been reached on the specific safety practices used by workers.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the assumption that high voltage work requires specialized knowledge and equipment, and there is an acknowledgment of the risks involved in working on live lines.

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Homework Statement



We know that current will flow whenever there is a potential difference. Sometimes when there are problems with high voltage lines - workers must work on them 'live' (not shut down). How do the workers manage to work on the wires without getting electrocuted by the high voltage?


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The Attempt at a Solution



If anybody knows how workers are protected in real life, I'd be curious to know.

I do know that if the workers had protective rubber gloves they would be okay to work on the wires because the gloves would insulate them against the flow of current. But, is there something else that high voltage workers use to not get 'zapped'?
 
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JJBladester said:

Homework Statement



We know that current will flow whenever there is a potential difference. Sometimes when there are problems with high voltage lines - workers must work on them 'live' (not shut down). How do the workers manage to work on the wires without getting electrocuted by the high voltage?


Homework Equations



N/A

The Attempt at a Solution



If anybody knows how workers are protected in real life, I'd be curious to know.

I do know that if the workers had protective rubber gloves they would be okay to work on the wires because the gloves would insulate them against the flow of current. But, is there something else that high voltage workers use to not get 'zapped'?

Rubber gloves would not be enough by themselves at those voltages.

Here's a question for you that should help -- why don't birds get electrocuted when sitting on power lines?
 
Let's see... About the birds, they aren't grounded (obviously). That would mean that when they land on the power line, their potential would become that of the power line, meaning *somehow* they are not experiencing a net current...?
 
JJBladester said:
Let's see... About the birds, they aren't grounded (obviously). That would mean that when they land on the power line, their potential would become that of the power line, meaning *somehow* they are not experiencing a net current...?

Not exactly. When you say "grounded", that would mean that they were holding a ground wire in one foot while holding onto the power wire with their other foot (no rubber booties). That creates a voltage (potential) difference across their little bodies, which generates a big current through them and poof!

But what if you had a big bird like a great white heron, who landed on the residential power wires, and had both feet on one wire. What would change when the heron tried to step to the next wire...?
 
And why would you not hand a metal tool to somebody working on a wire!
 

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