Write a closed form expression for the approximation y(nC)

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The discussion revolves around finding a closed form expression for the approximation y(nC), specifically exploring the relationship between a series representation and its geometric series form. The subject area includes series and approximations in mathematical analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the validity of using a geometric series to express y(nC) and question the appropriateness of sigma notation in the context of a closed form expression. There are attempts to clarify the nature of the approximation and the implications of using different forms of representation.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of geometric series and the conditions under which approximations are valid. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions behind the notation and the meaning of "closed form."

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Participants note a potential misunderstanding regarding the use of sigma notation in relation to the requirement for a closed form expression. There is also mention of the implications of large n and small r in the context of approximating sums.

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[tex]y(4C) ≈ 7.3 + C + \frac{C}{3^{10C}} + \frac{C}{3^{20C}} + \frac{C}{3^{30C}}[/tex]

Would:

[tex]y(nC) ≈ 7.3 + C\sum_{n = 0}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{3^{10Cn}}}[/tex]

Be an acceptable answer? If not, what am I doing wrong here?
 
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Any help?
 
The sum part is a geometric series r^n where r=1/(3^(10C).
 
Oh, ok. So should I be relating this to [tex]a\frac{1-r^n}{1-r}[/tex]
In particular, will my solution look something like:

[tex]y(nC) ≈ 7.3 + C\frac{1-{\frac{1}{3^{10C}}}^n}{1-\frac{1}{3^{10C}}}[/tex]
?
 
Depends. What are you really trying to do here? Why are you writing approximately equal to? (1+r+r^2+...+r^n) is actually (1-r^(n+1))/(1-r).
 
Well, because y(nC) is an approximation of some function, I assume. I just realized that there should have been a "..." in the initial y(4C).
 
IntegrateMe said:
Well, because y(nC) is an approximation of some function, I assume. I just realized that there should have been a "..." in the initial y(4C).

Now why would you do that? Then the first sum is the same as second sum. You can sum a geometric series like that exactly. As you've basically already said. If n is large and r=1/(3^(10C) is small you can approximate it by the infinite sum. I don't see any other role for 'approximately equal' here.
 
I just assumed that I couldn't use the sigma notation since they specified a "closed form expression." But, then again, I'm not entirely what that means.
 

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