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Yes, and it's still discontinuous everywhere.
Damn density ... it's been such a nice zero set ...micromass said:Yes, and it's still discontinuous everywhere.
I'm somewhat confused by this one.micromass said:Let ##\pi:\mathbb{N}\times \mathbb{N}\rightarrow \mathbb{N}## be a bijection and let ##\sum_{n} a_n## be an absolutely convergent series in ##\mathbb{R}##. Then ##\sum_n a_n = \sum_{k=0}^\infty \sum_{l=0}^\infty a_{\pi(k,l)}##.
It's more than just a rearrangement. Two limits are taken, rather than just one, as it'sSamy_A said:For an absolutely convergent series of real numbers, any rearrangement of the series yields a convergent series with the same sum.
Is ##\sum_{k=0}^\infty \sum_{l=0}^\infty a_{\pi(k,l)}## not such a rearrangement? That would make the statement true.
The counterexample I constructed #7 is also a counterexample for this claim.andrewkirk said:because a function that is discontinuous on ##\mathbb Q## must be discontinuous on all of ##\mathbb R##, because the former is dense in the latter.
andrewkirk said:Aha. The Cantor Set is the answer to 10. It has measure zero. It's uncountable, hence any function that has discontinuities on all the points of the Cantor Set cannot be Riemann-Integrable!
Furthermore, since it's nowhere dense, we can even find functions whose set of discontinuity points are the Cantor Set (eg its indicator function). But they won't be Riemann Integrable.
Because then any function whose set of discontinuity points is the Cantor set has an uncountable discontinuity set, and a function with an uncountable discontinuity set cannot be Riemann integrable.micromass said:Why does the uncountability of the Cantor set matter? Why isn't the indicator function Riemann integrable?
andrewkirk said:Ba function with an uncountable discontinuity set cannot be Riemann integrable.
micromass said:Why not?
(referring to fresh_42's suggestion in the preceding post that the indicator function of the rationals was Riemann integrable.)micromass said:It's not since its set of discontinuity points is uncountable.
Ah. Sorry, my post 59 is incorrect. What I should have said is that it's not Riemann integrable since its discontinuity set does not have measure zero. Sorry.andrewkirk said:(referring to fresh_42's suggestion in the preceding post that the indicator function of the rationals was Riemann integrable.)

andrewkirk said:I presume here we mean Lebesgue measure (is that correct, Micromass?).
andrewkirk said:Theorem
The indicator function of a subset of [0,1] with Lebesgue measure zero is Riemann integrable.
andrewkirk said:\sum_{k=M+1}^\infty\sum_{l=0}^\infty \left|a_{\pi(k,l)}\right| \leq \sum_{n=N+1}^\infty\left|a_n\right|
andrewkirk said:Since the limit of the outer sum exists, we can find K\in\mathbb N, with K\geq M, such that
$$\sum_{k=K+1}^\infty\sum_{l=0}^\infty\left|a_{\pi(k,l)}\right|
<\frac\epsilon{12}$$
andrewkirk said:For 10, just wanted to check something else. I presume Vitali sets are ruled out, since they are not Lebesgue measurable. A given Vitali set must have a Lebesgue Outer Measure (since any subset of ##\mathbb R## does) and, for all I know, it could be zero. And I imagine it may be straightforward to show that any function whose discontinuity set is a Vitali set is not Riemann integrable. But a Vitali set is not Lebesgue measurable.
I mention this because Vitali sets are the only uncountable sets I know of, other than the Cantor set, that are not known (by me) to have positive Lebesgue Outer Measure. They also have the advantage of being dense and, as @mfb pointed, out a counterexample to 10 has to be dense somewhere. In fact, I think it will have to be dense at an infinite number of points (ie have an infinite set of limit points), and maybe even at an uncountably infinite number of points.
I think the solution to this problem, when it turns up, will be a most intriguing set.