You can't do operations on infinity

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The discussion centers on the complexities of performing mathematical operations involving infinity. While some argue that math cannot adequately handle infinity, others assert that operations on infinity are indeed possible, though not all are well-defined. The conversation highlights the distinction between different types of infinities and the limitations of applying standard algebraic rules to them. Additionally, there is a clarification regarding the nature of the Big Bang singularity, emphasizing that it is not definitively known to be infinite. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards recognizing that while operations on infinity exist, they require careful consideration and cannot always follow conventional mathematical rules.
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I'm trying to get my words right. They say you can't do operations on infinity. Sorry I don't have an exact quote. But on the other hand you can do calculations involving infinite series. What is the proper way to describe what math can't do with infinity?

I want to say something along the lines of you can't use math to determine how the singularity (Big Bang) existed forever because the singularity was infinite and you cannot use math to understand infinity.
 
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Of course you can do operations on infinity. This is done in math all the time. It's true that infinity won't be a real number though. And it's true that not all operations will be well defined. But we can perform some operations.

Furthermore, there are many different kind of infinities in mathematics, some notions are better suited in some situations than in others.

g.lemaitre said:
you cannot use math to understand infinity.

We most certainly can.
 
g.lemaitre said:
I want to say something along the lines of you can't use math to determine how the singularity (Big Bang) existed forever because the singularity was infinite and you cannot use math to understand infinity.

1) The big bang did NOT "exist forever" --- where did you get that notion?
2) The singularity is not known to have been infinite and you should not make that as a definite statement. It MAY have been infinite, but that is not known.
 
We have operations on infinity that are defined and some that are undefined. Some of the ones that are deflined don't adhere to normal algebra, which is why you sometimes can get a contradiction when using standard algebra when infinity is involved.

So I think it is better to say that "we can't apply operations in the usual way" to infinity.
 
ok, looks like I didn't know what I was talking about. Thanks for clearing things up.
 
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