Young's Double Slit Experiment lab

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The discussion revolves around the Young's double slit experiment, specifically focusing on the relationship between the distance from the slits to the viewing screen and the distance between successive maxima. Participants seek to understand the underlying physics and mathematical principles involved in this relationship.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the relationship can be understood through straightforward trigonometry, indicating that as the distance to the screen increases, the distance to the first maximum also increases due to fixed angles.
  • Another participant challenges the simplicity of the original question, arguing that the maxima and minima occur at particular angles only as an approximation when the distance between the slits is significantly smaller than other distances in the setup.
  • It is proposed that an approximation formula, \(\sqrt{1 + x} \approx 1 + \frac{x}{2}\), could be useful in proving the relationship mathematically.
  • One participant expresses concern that the original question may have been mischaracterized as trivial, emphasizing the importance of starting from the mathematical description known to the original poster.
  • A later reply asserts that the situation described is indeed a far-field scenario, suggesting that the original poster may be struggling with this concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the problem, with some viewing it as straightforward while others believe it requires deeper consideration of approximations and conditions. Disagreement exists regarding whether the situation is a far-field or near-field scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the approximation used in the analysis is valid under specific conditions, particularly when the distance between the slits is much smaller than the other distances involved. This highlights potential limitations in the assumptions made during the discussion.

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In class we did a lab regarding the wave nature of light. We pretty much conducted Young's double slit experiment. For the lab we were supposed to establish the relationship between the distance from the slits to the viewing screen and the distance between successive maxima. Can anyone explain to me, physics wise, why as the distance between the viewing screen the distance between successive maxima increases proportionally as well. I can obviously figure it looking at the formula but need a explanation of what's going on for my lab. Thanks
 
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braeden said:
In class we did a lab regarding the wave nature of light. We pretty much conducted Young's double slit experiment. For the lab we were supposed to establish the relationship between the distance from the slits to the viewing screen and the distance between successive maxima. Can anyone explain to me, physics wise, why as the distance between the viewing screen the distance between successive maxima increases proportionally as well. I can obviously figure it looking at the formula but need a explanation of what's going on for my lab. Thanks

Er... this is straightforward trigonometry.

These maxima and minima are at particular angles. So if you look at the first maximum, it comes out of the slit at a fixed angle. So if you consider A as the distance to the screen and O is the distance to the first maximum, then if you keep the angle \theta fixed, can't you see that O will get larger as A increases?

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Your a trig. function (I'll let you figure this out yourself which one is relevant) to relate the angle, distance A, and distance O, you should be able to get the exact relationship between all three.

In the future, please write down exactly the mathematical description that you know, and start from there.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Er... this is straightforward trigonometry.

These maxima and minima are at particular angles.

In the future, please write down exactly the mathematical description that you know, and start from there.

Zz.

It almost appears as if you are trying to make the original question sound as dumb. I wouldn't approve of that, because it is not obvious at all why the maxima and minima would come at particular angels. They do so only as an approximation when the distance between the slits is signifigantly smaller than the other distances in the situation. In order to prove this nicely, one of the most obvious ways (IMO) is to apply the approximation

<br /> \sqrt{1 + x} \approx 1 + \frac{x}{2}<br />

So that's the level of math that is required for this.
 
jostpuur said:
It almost appears as if you are trying to make the original question sound as dumb.

Er... no. I was pointing out the nature of the problem. Indicating that this is probably a math question might provide the OP a place to look. Furthermore, the OP indicated that he/she has the mathematical "formula" to look at. Knowing exactly what it is is the starting point since that is something the OP knows.

My philosophy in teaching has ALWAYS been to start where the understanding stops!

I wouldn't approve of that, because it is not obvious at all why the maxima and minima would come at particular angels. They do so only as an approximation when the distance between the slits is signifigantly smaller than the other distances in the situation. In order to prove this nicely, one of the most obvious ways (IMO) is to apply the approximation

<br /> \sqrt{1 + x} \approx 1 + \frac{x}{2}<br />

So that's the level of math that is required for this.

Do you really think that, at this level, this is not a far-field situation? Near-field 2-slit experiment is highly unusual. Based on the description given in the OP, I see this as being a standard, straightforward 2-slit experiment in an intro lab. Do you see otherwise?

Zz.
 
I believe the original problem was a far-field situation. I also believe that braeden has had difficulty understanding what it means.
 

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