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The discussion centers on the parallels between Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe and Saddam Hussein's rule in Iraq, highlighting the oppressive actions against citizens, including threats against dissenting athletes. Participants express concern over the international community's response to such regimes, acknowledging the hypocrisy in opinions about intervention. There is a call for a reevaluation of past elections in Zimbabwe, suggesting that international observers should declare them invalid and push for a re-election with peacekeepers to ensure fairness. The conversation also touches on the broader issue of global governance, with mentions of other countries facing similar crises, such as North Korea and Somalia. The feasibility of conducting fair elections in Zimbabwe is questioned, especially given the current state of opposition supporters. The need for the release of imprisoned opposition members is emphasized as a crucial step for any potential change in leadership.
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I know this is a bit of a different thread in the context of Iraq. Do you agree that Mugabe is doing to his people what Saddam did to his? In the cricket world cup two Zimbabwean players protested against Mugabe and were told if they ever came back to Zimbabwe they would be killed. Is this right and should we do something about it?
 
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There are dozens of countries in the same plight, Viper. We're only one nation and we can't help all of them at once. But I would support a doctrine of going into as many of those countries as we reasonably can. That would be a major change in policy though that the American people and the world community would not support.

There is much hypocrisy on both sides. One side says we interfere too much with the affairs of others but should do more. The other says we should do as much as we can to help others but we are not the world's policeman.
 
The Mugabe problem should have been nipped in the bud at the last election. But now, war isn't the best policy.

Since the opposition is still around the focus should be to get the international community to judge the previous election invalid (as many independent observers suggested) and call for a re-election. And this time, stick it peacekeepers to make sure this election is genuine. Until we do that, Mugabe still maintains a tenuous idea of being semi-democratically elected, and it would be exceedingly difficult to deal with him, or to put in the idea of being liberators.
 
Im not sure if you realize but I am from england
 
Does it make a difference?
 
Maybe he was referring to my "we're only one nation" phrase, FZ+. I wasn't inferring that you were American, Viper - "we" means me and my fellow Americans, not specifically you.
 
What I meant was that I feel that something should be done about zimbabwe in general.By the way russ, what other countries are in the same plight?
 
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What I meant was that I feel that something should be done about zimbabwe in general.By the way russ, what other countries are in the same plight?
N Korea for starters. Somalia, the Ivory Coast (France's little war) and a handful of other african countries.
 
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Do you think a fair election is possible at this point? with so many of the opposition parties supporters dead and imprisoned?
 
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Kat that is so true? at this rate only way mugabe would go is to die of age.
 
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Do you think a fair election is possible at this point? with so many of the opposition parties supporters dead and imprisoned?
Hmm, well getting them released would be a start. No matter what we do, it is necessary that they be released. Even if we invade (which I don't think we should), we would need the opposition to take over.
 

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