water as fuel

bassplayer142

Check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU

It looks like the future of this is very bright.

russ_watters

No. Water is the waste product of combustion. It is ash. All this guy does is use electrolysis to split hydrogen and oxygen (reversing the conbustion process) and then he burns it. I can assure you that he's taking more power out of the wall socket his machine is plugged into than he gets back by burning the hydrogen and oxygen. There isn't anything new or especially useful here.

bassplayer142

What about him using it in a car. Using an alternator and battery to power the process.

Danger

You're going straight back to one of the most common 'perpetual motion machines'. What's going to power the alternator?

chroot

Oh, good Lord, haven't we been through this enough times on this forum? Where does this question keep coming from?

- Warren

russ_watters

I didn't hear that claim anywhere in the video, but if that is what he claims, he's going to need one reaaaaaally big battery!

Yes, now you're into the realm of perpetual motion hoaxes, if that's what this guy's about. There is one line about him being able to run his car on water alone (though he isn't doing it right now - perhaps becuause he can't figure out that pesky perpetual motion thing, but I don't want to assume that), but it doesn't go into any detail about that. He does explicitly state that his welding torch machine is plugged-into a wall outlet.

NoTime

It does seem to be a distinctly different method of hydrolysis.
That part could be interesting.

Ivan Seeking

We don't discuss perpetual motion machines since they don't work, and from what I see there is nothing unexplained here. Making hydrogen with electricity is childs play, and even if he has some unique process, this doesn't imply that there is any mystery here. So either this will show up in the trade journals and qualify as an engineering or chemistry subject, or, it is bogus. In either case it's not a subject for S&D.