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| Jan24-13, 11:57 AM | #1 |
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Analytical logarithms
What is the analytical method for solving log. eqs., like x=2^x/14 ?
In highschool they only teach us the graphical approach =/ joo |
| Jan24-13, 12:25 PM | #2 |
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I suppose you could replace the 2^(x/14) with its taylor series expansion and then cut-off some terms to get an approximation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series |
| Jan24-13, 12:37 PM | #3 |
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What I meant was x=(2^x)/14, but I guess that doesn't really change the principle.
Thanks, I'll take a look at it, although I find myself doubtful. |
| Jan24-13, 01:28 PM | #4 |
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Analytical logarithms
There is no analytical solution to your problem. One can express the solutions using the product log function, but that is just another way of writing it, not a true analytic solution.
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| Jan24-13, 01:31 PM | #5 |
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Welcome to PF, joo!
![]() In university they still use the graphical approach. ;) In addition they use approximation algorithms, like the method of Newton-Raphson (which is based on a Taylor series expansion). It's only the really bold ones in math that use the Lambert W function, which is a function that has only been invented to be able to write the solution to your equation. As far as I know, no one really uses it. The first solution for your equation is ##x=-{W(-\frac 1 {14} \ln(2)) \over \ln(2)} \approx 0.07525##. |
| Jan24-13, 01:38 PM | #6 |
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But Lambert used it and they made a movie on his life among sheep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRtKAQJUc3g (/HUMOR) |
| Jan24-13, 02:14 PM | #7 |
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| Jan24-13, 02:50 PM | #8 |
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Thank you for your replies ! I'll stick to the graphical solving for now then, since I will have no access to any calculators during my tests.
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