Entropy Change of Supercooled Water Freezing Spontaneously

In summary, the water at -2C (271K) turns to ice spontaneously. This releases heat into the surroundings (33.47KJ). The surroundings are at the same temperature, 271K, and do not change temperature as a result of the change of state of the water and the release of this heat. So how does any part of this occur at a temperature other than 271K? If the liquid water at -2C (271K) turns to ice it must release heat into the surroundings (33.47 KJ). The surroundings are at the same temperature, 271K, and do not change temperature as a result of the change of state of the water and the release of this heat. So how does any part of
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Homework Statement



A 100 g mass of supercooled water at -2ºC in thermal contact with surroundings also at -2ºC
freezes spontaneously.
Calculate the entropy change of the universe assuming that the surroundings act as a large
temperature reservoir. [The specific heat capacity of ice is 2090 J kg-1 K-1, the specific heat
capacity of water is 4183 J Kg-1 K-1, and the latent heat of fusion of water is 334.7 kJ kg-1.]

Is this process reversible?

Homework Equations



Change in entropy of the universe = change in entropy of the system + change in entropy of the surroundings

dS = dQ/T (for a reversible process)

The Attempt at a Solution



latent heat of fusion = l = 334700J/Kg
T2 = freezing temperature of water = 273K
T1 = -2 degrees Celcius = 271K
mass = m = 0.1Kg

Change in entropy of the system = (-)m*l/T2 = (0.1*334700)/273 = -122.60J/K

Change in entropy of the surroundings = (+)m*l/T1 = (0.1*334700)/271 = 123.51J/K

Change in entropy of the universe = 123.51 -122.60 = 0.9J/KThe process is irreversibleI have a feeling this is wrong because i haven't used the heat capacities of ice and water (not sure how to) any help would be appreciated, thanks.
 
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sanitykey said:

The Attempt at a Solution



latent heat of fusion = l = 334700J/Kg
T2 = freezing temperature of water = 273K
T1 = -2 degrees Celcius = 271K
mass = m = 0.1Kg

Why would the final temperature be 273K rather than 271 K?

If the liquid water at -2C (271K) turns to ice it must release heat into the surroundings (33.47 KJ). The surroundings are at the same temperature, 271K, and do not change temperature as a result of the change of state of the water and the release of this heat. So how does any part of this occur at a temperature other than 271K?

AM
 
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Thanks for your response, I'm still not quite sure how to work this out though. The reason i used 273K was i was following a (what i thought to be) similar example i found at:

http://www.chem1.com/acad/webtext/thermeq/TE3.html

(the green box about 1/3 down the page)

If i use 271K for both processes then would that make the change in entropy of the universe 0? Would that make it a reversible process?

How do i include the heat capacities? I mean if the temperature of the water/ice isn't actually changing i don't see how i can use them?

Any help is much appreciated.
 
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You need to apply the equations to a reversible process, which spontaneous freezing isn't. An appropriate process would be:

1) Take the supercooled water up to 0°C reversibly
2) Freeze the water (at 1 atm, 0°C is the only temperature for which freezing is reversible)
3) Take the ice back down to -2°C reversibly

The outcome is the same, but the whole process is now reversible. The heating and cooling steps are where the heat capacities come in. You can find more information on this technique in most thermo texts.
 
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Mapes said:
You need to apply the equations to a reversible process, which spontaneous freezing isn't. An appropriate process would be:

1) Take the supercooled water up to 0°C reversibly
2) Freeze the water (at 1 atm, 0°C is the only temperature for which freezing is reversible)
3) Take the ice back down to -2°C reversibly

The outcome is the same, but the whole process is now reversible. The heating and cooling steps are where the heat capacities come in. You can find more information on this technique in most thermo texts.
This is correct. The change in entropy is defined as the integral of dQ/T for the reversible path. Since ice will never melt at -2C in these surroundings, the spontaneous freezing of supercooled water at -2C is not reversible.

The path Mapes has given can be reversible (for example the water is heated and the ice is then cooled using a Carnot heat pump between the water and the surroundings). The change in entropy of the water is:

[tex]\Delta S_{water} = \int_{-2}^{0}mCdT/T + \left{(}-\frac{Q_{fusion}}{T_{0}}\right{)} + \int_{0}^{-2}mCdT/T = -Q_{fusion}/T_{0} = -33.47/273[/tex]

since the integrals cancel each other. Similarly, the change in entropy of the surroundings (temperature constant at 271K) is:

[tex]\Delta S_{surr} = mC\Delta T/T + Q_{fusion}/T + mC(-\Delta T)/T = Q_{fusion}/T = 33.47/271[/tex]

So the total change is:

[tex]\Delta S = \Delta S_{water} + \Delta S_{surr} = -33.47/273 + 33.47/271 > 0[/tex]

Since the change in entropy of the universe is positive, the process is not reversible.

AM
 
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I got caught up in exams recently and didn't get a chance to respond to this but it's a perfect explanation thanks!
 

1. What is the process of supercooling water?

Supercooling is the process of cooling a liquid below its freezing point without it solidifying. This can occur when the liquid is free from impurities and is in a container that is very clean and smooth.

2. What happens to the entropy of water during supercooling?

The entropy of water decreases as it is supercooled. This means that the water becomes more ordered and organized as it gets closer to its freezing point. This decrease in entropy is due to the molecules of water slowing down and aligning themselves in a more structured way.

3. Why does supercooled water freeze spontaneously?

Supercooled water will eventually freeze spontaneously because it is in an unstable state. It has been cooled below its freezing point, but has not yet formed ice crystals. In order to reach a more stable state, the water molecules will begin to form ice crystals, causing the water to freeze.

4. Can supercooled water remain in its liquid state indefinitely?

No, supercooled water cannot remain in its liquid state indefinitely. It will eventually reach its freezing point and begin to freeze spontaneously. However, the time it takes for this to occur can vary depending on the purity and conditions of the water.

5. What factors affect the rate of entropy change during supercooling?

The rate of entropy change during supercooling can be affected by several factors, including the purity of the water, the temperature at which it is being supercooled, and the presence of nucleation sites (impurities or scratches on the container that can trigger the formation of ice crystals). Other external factors such as air pressure and agitation can also influence the rate of entropy change.

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