Securing early reccomendations

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In summary, the conversation discusses the process of securing early recommendations for graduate school. It is advised to ask for recommendations from the professors who hold a high opinion of you, rather than those who taught the most difficult material or where you received the highest grade. The process typically involves providing a link for online recommendation letters or providing the correct paper form and addressed envelope for the professor to fill out. It is also common to waive the right to see the content of the letter as a sign of respect. The speaker shares their personal strategy for earning a strong recommendation by working hard and developing a relationship with the professor. It is important to have a specific plan and know which schools you will be applying to in order to request the appropriate number of letters.
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Hi I'm entering my junior year and I'm wondering how the process of securing early reccomendations works. Ideally I want to get reccomendations when it's still fresh in the professor's memory that i performed very well and am a good candidate for graduate school.

There is a second part to my question. This semester I am taking a decent work load, but next semester I will be taking all signature upper divisions (Measure Theory, Chaos and Dynamics, Topology, Differential Geo, etc). Wouldn't it be better to get reccomendations from professors who taught me the more difficult material??

Regardless, I would like to know how the process works. Do the professors give me one general reccomendation that I can photocopy at my whim? I thought I wasn't allowed to see the actual contents of the letter? How does the process work?

These are reccomendations for grad school. Also, what about reccomendations for REU's?
 
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You want to ask for recommendations from the professors who thought of you the most highly, not the ones where you learned the most difficult material or got the highest grade.

If all you did was get a good grade in a class, the professor isn't going to know you very well. To him, you're just a number, and maybe someone who asked insightful questions in class. If he has had limited interaction with you, then what can he write in the letter? That you got an A and didn't skip class? That won't help any since all it does is reflect what's already in your transcript.

Often graduate school recommendation letters are done online now, you give a link to your professors and they fill it in online. If it is not online, it is courtesy to provide your professor with the correct, filled-out paper recommendation form, and correctly addressed envelope with postage applied, to make it easiest on them. If you make them work to recommend you, they won't have as good an impression as they write the letter.

Technically, under United States law, you are allowed to review all educational records that are kept by universities, including recommendation letters. However, it is commonplace (and a sign of respect to the professors you're asking) to waive your right to see the content of the letter. This ensures that the professor can say whatever they want without fear, and the admissions office knows that they are receiving an honest letter.
 
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jbusc said:
You want to ask for recommendations from the professors who thought of you the most highly, not the ones where you learned the most difficult material or got the highest grade.

If all you did was get a good grade in a class, the professor isn't going to know you very well. To him, you're just a number, and maybe someone who asked insightful questions in class. If he has had limited interaction with you, then what can he write in the letter? That you got an A and didn't skip class? That won't help any since all it does is reflect what's already in your transcript.

Often graduate school recommendation letters are done online now, you give a link to your professors and they fill it in online. If it is not online, it is courtesy to provide your professor with the correct, filled-out paper recommendation form, and correctly addressed envelope with postage applied, to make it easiest on them. If you make them work to recommend you, they won't have as good an impression as they write the letter.

Technically, under United States law, you are allowed to review all educational records that are kept by universities, including recommendation letters. However, it is commonplace (and a sign of respect to the professors you're asking) to waive your right to see the content of the letter. This ensures that the professor can say whatever they want without fear, and the admissions office knows that they are receiving an honest letter.

i knew all that, how does getting an early reccomendation work?

i'm obviously not applying to grad school yet, so i don't know which schools I'm applying to, how many schools I'm applying to. I'm asking the professor for a letter of rec, but they don't know how many copies to make and where they are for yet.

i can't come to them saying, hey I'm applyig to such and such university and xyz university, here are self addressed manila envelopes.
 
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I don't know from experience, but here is what I do

1. Work hard in every class.
2. Participate in class, ask questions.
3. Visit your profesor during office hours. During the visit ask questions about the class, and more importantly ask questions about class related subjects that are of interest to both of you. I think showing interest on a subject loosly related to the course but not directly taken from the class goes a long way.
4. Be polite and friendly but don't kiss ass. I think a professor befriends a polite student that is honest, but I'm sure they can spot you when you try to brown nose.
5. Earn the recomendation by working hard and doing more work than it is requiered from the course.

That is my way of doing things, although I may never ask for a recomendation letter from the professor. I want them to start thinking of me as collegues not just another student. If I earned a recomendation from my professor it will show when they fill it out.
 
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I don't get what you want. You want professors to write recommendation letters but have no need for them right now? Most professors are not going to write generic letters and give them to you.

You could go to one of your professors, and ask "will you write me a letter in a year when I apply to grad school?", but chances are they'll say "OK, remind me in a year".
 

What is the purpose of securing early recommendations?

The purpose of securing early recommendations is to obtain support and endorsement from individuals who have firsthand experience or knowledge of your work or accomplishments. These recommendations can serve as evidence of your skills, qualifications, and potential for success in your field.

Who should I approach for early recommendations?

You should approach individuals who are familiar with your work and can speak positively about your abilities and achievements. This could include professors, supervisors, colleagues, or mentors.

How do I ask for an early recommendation?

You can ask for an early recommendation by sending a polite and professional email or message to the individual, explaining why you are seeking their recommendation and providing any relevant information about your work or accomplishments. It is important to give the person enough time to write the recommendation and to thank them for their time and support.

When should I start securing early recommendations?

You should start securing early recommendations as soon as possible, ideally before you need them. This will give the individuals enough time to write a thoughtful and thorough recommendation and will also allow you to gather multiple recommendations from different sources.

What should I do if someone declines to provide an early recommendation?

If someone declines to provide an early recommendation, it is important to respect their decision. You can ask if there is a specific reason for their decline and if there is anything you can do to address their concerns. If not, it is best to thank them for their time and move on to another potential recommender.

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