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A Question related to Co-ordinate Geometry

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DarkStalker
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Sep28-09, 06:12 AM
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Hello. I have this question related to Co-ordinate geometry that I have trouble solving.

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A line is drawn through the point A (1,2) to cut the line 2y=3x-5 in P and the line x+y=12 in Q. If AQ=2AP, find the co-ordinates of P and Q.


2. Relevant equations



3. The attempt at a solution

It apparently has 2 solutions, according to this website:

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53178.html

I'm supposed to find out the exact co-ordinates without having to do any kind of graphical work. I couldn't make any reasonable attempt.
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willem2
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Sep28-09, 12:12 PM
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give equations for all the lines that go through (1,2). These are all the lines of the form y = ax + b where b = ......... ? There's also a vertical line.

a line y = ax + b goes through a point (p,q) if x = p and y= ax+b = q

find where each of that family of lines intersects the other 2 lines. you know how to find the intersection of 2 lines? Also don't forget the vertical line.

now compute the distances from these intersection points to A. set one of them equal to twice the other and solve the equation you get
DarkStalker
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Sep30-09, 01:47 PM
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Quote Quote by willem2 View Post
give equations for all the lines that go through (1,2). These are all the lines of the form y = ax + b where b = ......... ? There's also a vertical line.
Wait, what about 'a', that's also unknown isn't it?

a line y = ax + b goes through a point (p,q) if x = p and y= ax+b = q
Okay, understood.

find where each of that family of lines intersects the other 2 lines. you know how to find the intersection of 2 lines? Also don't forget the vertical line.
I lost you here. What family are you talking about? I know how to find the intersection of 2 lines (by simultaneously solving them), but how am I supposed to yield a value when I don't know what y=ax+b is? If you could please provide me with a solution I'd be really grateful.

willem2
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Oct1-09, 12:30 AM
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A Question related to Co-ordinate Geometry

Quote Quote by DarkStalker View Post

I lost you here. What family are you talking about? I know how to find the intersection of 2 lines (by simultaneously solving them), but how am I supposed to yield a value when I don't know what y=ax+b is? If you could please provide me with a solution I'd be really grateful.
you'll get a line that depends on a. (you can find b if a is given because the line
must go through (1,2))

it really isn't a problem if you don't know a. The point of intersection will
of course also depend on a. an example:

if you want to find the intersection of the lines y = ax - 2a and x+y = a - 8
solfve one of the equations for x or y and substitute in the other:

substitute x = a - 8 - y in y = ax -2a to get y = a(a - 8 - y) -2a

y + ya = a^2 - 10 a

(1+a)y = a^2 - 10 a

y = (a^2 - 10 a) / (1+a)

substitute the answer for y in x = a - 8 - y to get x

x = a - 8 -y = (a^2 + a - 8a - 8 - a^2 - 10a)/(a+1) = - (17a + 8)/(a+1)

so the lines y = ax - 2a and x+y = a - 8 intersect in the point

(- (17a + 8)/(a+1), (a^2 - 10 a) / (1+a))

if (a = -1) the lines don't intersect.

you'll get an intersection point of the mystery line with 2y=3x-5 and one with the line x+y=12
the postition of both points will also depend on a, and so AQ and AP will also depend on a.


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