What is Implicit: Definition and 535 Discussions

In mathematics, an implicit equation is a relation of the form R(x1,…, xn) = 0, where R is a function of several variables (often a polynomial). For example, the implicit equation of the unit circle is x2 + y2 − 1 = 0.
An implicit function is a function that is defined by an implicit equation, that relates one of the variables, considered as the value of the function, with the others considered as the arguments. For example, the equation x2 + y2 − 1 = 0 of the unit circle defines y as an implicit function of x if –1 ≤ x ≤ 1, and one restricts y to nonnegative values.
The implicit function theorem provides conditions under which some kinds of relations define an implicit function, namely relations defined as the indicator function of the zero set of some continuously differentiable multivariate function.

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  1. Angel Ochoa

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    Hello everybody, I´m simulating a problem of indentation of a tungsten needle tip on an aluminum layer. Before I was using just the module "Static Structural" from ANSYS, which is based on an implicit solver. Now I wanted to do the same simulation with the module "Explicit Dynamics" of ANSYS...
  2. S

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    Homework Statement a. Given u=F(x,y,z) and z=f(x,y) find { f }_{ xx } in terms of the partial derivatives of of F. b. Given { z }^{ 3 }+xyz=8 find { f }_{ x }(0,1)\quad { f }_{ y }(0,1)\quad { f }_{ xx }(0,1) Homework Equations Implicit function theorem, chain rule diagrams, Clairaut's...
  3. U

    MHB Find the derivative using implicit differentiation (with inverse trig functions)

    Here is the question: This is the step I came to after taking the derivatives and doing some simplification: ^ I did the work myself on paper, I just couldn't type out the whole thing clearly so that anyone else can see what I'm referring too... so I used some online tool to show that...
  4. T

    Implicit Differentiation Question

    << Mentor Note -- thread moved from the technical math forums at OP request, so no Homework Help Template is shown >> x2y + xy2 = 6 I know we use the chain rule from here, so wouldn't that be: (d/dx)(x2y + xy2) = (d/dx)(6) so using the chain rule of g'(x)f'(g(x) and the d/dx canceling out on...
  5. D

    [Multivariable Calculus] Implicit Function Theorem

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  6. Q

    Implicit differentiation (beginner)

    Homework Statement Find y' ... X^2+y^2=25I understand (I think) implicit differentiation, but there is one issue which hangs me up. I've done this before and this is just a refresher as my last calculus course was four years ago. From what I understand, 2x+2y(y')=0 But why isn't it...
  7. M

    I What is the Explanation for Implicit Differentiation Equation?

    First of all thanks for the help, i have a problem finding a good explanation of de ecuation (d/dx)f=(∂f/∂x)+(∂f/∂y)*(dy/dx) could anyone write me a good explanation of this ecuation? thanks for the help
  8. A

    B (ASK) Implicit Differentiation

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  9. C

    Implicit partial differentiation

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  10. I

    Is implicit memory an "instinct"?

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  11. C

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  12. P

    MHB Kamal's Questions via email about Implicit Differentiation

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  13. P

    MHB Effie's question via email about Implicit Differentiation

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  14. N

    Implicit Partial Derivative

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  15. N

    Digging deeper into (implicit) differentiation and integration

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  16. I

    Integrating Implicit Functions

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  17. G

    Question about the implicit function theorem

    I won't post the whole rigorous statement of the theorem, but basically the theorem states that If ##F(x,y) = 0## on a neighborhood of the form ##[x-\delta ,x+\delta ]\times [y- \epsilon ,y+\epsilon ]## and if ##\frac{\partial F(x,y)}{\partial y} \neq 0##, then there exists a function ##y=\phi...
  18. R

    MHB What is the process to solve \sqrt{x}+\sqrt{y}=5 for the point (4,9)?

    Hello! Can someone help me with the process of solving \sqrt{x}+\sqrt{y}=5 on point (4,9)? With implicit, I differntiated both sides and ended up with 1/2x^-1/2+1/2y^-1/2\d{y}{x}=0 and I tried to isolate the dy/dx, but how do I get rid of the others? And with explicit, I isolated y to one side...
  19. I

    Basic implicit differentiation question

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  20. S

    Solving for Velocity: How to Integrate a Complex Function with Constants?

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  21. R

    MHB Help on Related Rates implicit differentiation

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  22. G

    MHB How do I differentiate $\cos(x+y)$?

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  23. O

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  24. X

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  25. seyfi

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  26. I

    Different animal sensory, short and long term memories?

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  27. iwantcalculus

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  28. chwala

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    1. Given the function ##xy+cos y+6xy^2=0## , it follows that ## dy/dx=-y/x-siny+12xy##2. My problem is how do we integrate this derivative ## dy/dx=-y/x-siny+12xy## to get back the original function3.## ∫dy/dx dx=y ##
  29. B

    How is implicit differentiation performed in calculus?

    Folks, Differentiate implicitly \phi(x,y)=0 I get: wrt to x \phi_x+\phi_y \frac{dy}{dx} and wrt to y \phi_y+\phi_x \frac{dx}{dy} however I don't know how this is derived \phi_x dx+\phi_y dy=0
  30. B

    MHB Yes, that makes sense! Thank you for explaining it to me.

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  31. R

    MATLAB Fit with implicit nonlinear function - Matlab

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  32. P

    Matrix-free iteration methods and implicit ODE solvers

    Im trying to implement the implicit Euler method in high-performance software for micromagnetic simulations, where I'm restricted to using the driving function of the ODE (Landau-Lifshitz equation) and the previous solution points. This obviously not a problem for an explicit method, since we...
  33. C

    System of Implicit Non-Linear First Order ODEs

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  34. K

    What is the correct second derivative for implicit differentiation of r^2 = x^2?

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  35. P

    Implicit Function: Box Dimensions & Rates of Change

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  36. nuuskur

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    Homework Statement y^2 + 3x - x^3 = C, C\in\mathbb{R}\setminus\{0\} Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution Keeping in mind that ##\cos ^2\alpha + \sin ^2\alpha = 1## I would go about it \left (\frac{y}{\sqrt{C}}\right )^2 + \left (\frac{\sqrt{3x-x^3}}{\sqrt{C}}\right )^2 = 1 would then...
  37. karush

    MHB What is the equation of the tangent line at (π/2,1) for sin(xy)=y?

    Find the equation of the line tangent to $$\sin\left({xy}\right)=y$$ At point $$\left(\frac{\pi}{2 },1\right)$$ Answer $y=1$ I didn't know how to deal with xy. No example given
  38. maistral

    Implicit iterative methods oscillating?

    I'm under the impression that any implicit method for numerically solving ODE should be providing high stability in exchange for accuracy. I'm trying to solve the differential equation: dy/dx = -1000y + 3000 - 2000exp(-x) with intial conditions (0,0). I still can't understand how come the...
  39. funlord

    Implicit Differentiation: two different answers

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  40. Essence

    Java Defining variables in the context of implicit functions in java

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  41. karush

    MHB Implicit differentiation

    $$6x-\sqrt{2xy}+xy^3 ={y}^{2}$$ $$6-?+3x{y}^{2}{y'}^{}+{y}^{3}=2y{y'}^{}$$ Got stumped on this one answer was complicated...
  42. M

    Implicit Function Theorem Generalization

    How is the Implicit Function Theorem listed here (http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-965-geometry-of-manifolds-fall-2004/lecture-notes/lecture4.pdf) a generalization of the usual one seen in multivariable calculus (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_function_theorem)? I've also...
  43. avikarto

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  44. ORF

    Problem - Implicit function theorem

    Homework Statement I have 3 functions which define 3 constraints: A(x,y,z)=0 (nonlinear) B(y,z)=y-z=0 C(w,x,y,z)=w-(x+y+z)=0 I'm asked to calculate the partial of a function h, with respect to the variable w; with h=h(x,y,z). Homework Equations A(x,y,z)=0 (nonlinear) B(y,z)=y-z=0...
  45. B

    Implicit recursive array construction, F90

    Hello there, I again have a problem with programming in Fortran 90.1. Homework Statement I would like to construct an array with an implicit do loop. I know how to get the array I want to with usual do-loop but I would like to do it without do loops. So this is the array I want to construct...
  46. KevinMWHM

    Implicit Function Theorem problem

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  47. M

    MHB Implicit functions-Derivatives

    Hey! :o Let $y(x)$ be defined implicitly by $G(x,y(x))=0$, where $G$ is a given two-variable function. Show that if $y(x)$ and $G$ are differentiable, then $$\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{\frac{\partial{G}}{\partial{x}}}{\frac{\partial{G}}{\partial{y}}} , \text{ if } \frac{\partial{G}}{\partial{y}}...
  48. Drakkith

    Implicit Differentiation: Differentiating in Terms of X

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  49. Math Amateur

    MHB Analysis of Implicit Differentiation

    I am reading several books on multivariable analysis/calculus and am trying to get a precise and rigorous theoretical understanding of implicit differentiation, including the Implicit Function Theorem ... in particular I am reading: Vector Calculus (Second Edition) by Susan Colley and...
  50. S

    MHB Need reassurance on "implicit" and "explicit" form

    When dealing with this separable equation for example, if I'm told to solve the given D.E. $y' = x^2/y$ so after manipulation and taking the integral I got $\frac{y^2}{2} = \frac{x^3}{3} + C$ This is the implicit form correct? Would the explicit form be $y = \sqrt{\frac{2}{3} x^3 + C}$
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