Analog Circuit for Mathematical Pendulum

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I need some help understanding this block diagram of an analog pendulum circuit. This circuit has a sine generator which complicates the diagram. I need help understanding what comes out of the integrators.
This is an analog circuit block diagram of a mathematical pendulum which solves the equation $$ \ddot{\alpha}= -\frac{g}{l}sin(\alpha)$$.
I need some help following the signals into and out of the blocks. I think the input to integrator #1 must be ##\frac{g}{l}sin(\alpha)## as well as ##\ddot{\alpha}## but what goes into and comes out of integrators #3 and #4? I'm planning on implementing this on The Analog Thing computer. The diagram below comes from Bernd Ulmann's book Analog and Hybrid Computer Programming.

https://the-analog-thing.org/

Thanks for any help!
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Can you help further explain the functions of the other blocks in the feedback loop diagram besides blocks 1 to 4 which are supposed to be integrators?
Thank you in advance.
 
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The output of integrator 4 must be sin(a), because it is multiplied by the constant g/l.

The lowest line of 5 elements makes the sine wave generator, which produces cosine and sine waves from integrators 3 and 4 respectively.
The sine output is buffered and fed back across the bottom of the diagram to the input to the cosine integrator 3, that has initial output = +1 at time = 0.

The sine and cosine integrator inputs each have a multiplier, +Π, with common input to the multipliers. I believe the angular frequency is controlled by the +Π multipliers before each integrator.
 
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alan123hk said:
Can you help further explain the functions of the other blocks in the feedback loop diagram besides blocks 1 to 4 which are supposed to be integrators?
Thank you in advance.
Sure. The blocks with the plus sign are multipliers which just multiply the two input signals and the single triangle is an inverter which just inverts the sign of the signal.
 
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Baluncore said:
The output of integrator 4 must be sin(a), because it is multiplied by the constant g/l.

The lowest line of 5 elements makes the sine wave generator, which produces cosine and sine waves from integrators 3 and 4 respectively.
The sine output is buffered and fed back across the bottom of the diagram to the input to the cosine integrator 3, that has initial output = +1 at time = 0.

The sine and cosine integrator inputs each have a multiplier, +Π, with common input to the multipliers. I believe the angular frequency is controlled by the +Π multipliers before each integrator.
Thanks. I get how the bottom loop makes sines and cosines but I don't get how it makes ##sin(\alpha)## given the buffering from ##-\dot{\alpha}##. For example, the output of the left multiplier must be ##(-\dot{\alpha} )(-sin(\alpha))## but ##\alpha## itself is not trivially ##\omega t## as it would be without the buffering.
 
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Baluncore said:
The output of integrator 4 must be sin(a), because it is multiplied by the constant g/l.

The lowest line of 5 elements makes the sine wave generator, which produces cosine and sine waves from integrators 3 and 4 respectively.
The sine output is buffered and fed back across the bottom of the diagram to the input to the cosine integrator 3, that has initial output = +1 at time = 0.

The sine and cosine integrator inputs each have a multiplier, +Π, with common input to the multipliers. I believe the angular frequency is controlled by the +Π multipliers before each integrator.
Ok, thanks, I see it now. It is exactly as this simpler case also from Bernd Ulmann's book where the ##\omega## is controlled by potentiometers;
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Only now, the multipliers in the diagram below act like the potentiometers (circles) in the diagram above because the instantaneous frequency input is ##\omega=-\dot{\alpha}## which implies ##sin(\omega\tau)=-sin(\alpha)##.
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I ended up simulating this and then programming the circuit on The Analog Thing analog computer. Here are the results. First the simulation. This is for a large angle of 3 radians. The dark blue is the solution for the angle ##\alpha## with the small angle approximation. The green is the angle without the small angle approximation. Notice it is not a sine wave and has a much longer period. The turquoise is the velocity for that and the red is the acceleration. Notice the double hump which occurs for initial angles larger than ##\frac{\pi}{2}##.
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Here is the circuit running on The Analog Thing (THAT). It's not scaled to the exact same conditions but must be a large amplitude and captures the right behaviour. I still have to understand how to calibrate this to exact specified initial conditions. It's not quite as large an amplitude as the simulation because the double hump is less pronounced. Here yellow is the angle, turquoise is the angular velocity and purple is the acceleration.

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What is an analog circuit for a mathematical pendulum?

An analog circuit for a mathematical pendulum is designed to simulate the behavior of a pendulum using electronic components. This type of circuit typically uses operational amplifiers, resistors, and capacitors to model the differential equations governing the motion of a pendulum.

How does an analog circuit model the motion of a mathematical pendulum?

The analog circuit models the motion of a mathematical pendulum by replicating the pendulum's differential equation using an electronic circuit. This is usually achieved through a configuration of operational amplifiers that represent the sine function and the second-order differential equation of motion, thereby mimicking the pendulum's angular displacement over time.

What are the key components in an analog circuit for a mathematical pendulum?

The key components in such a circuit typically include operational amplifiers (op-amps), capacitors, and resistors. Op-amps are used to build integrators and differentiators that are necessary for solving the pendulum's differential equations electronically. Capacitors and resistors determine the time constants and scaling factors in the circuit.

Why use an analog circuit to study a mathematical pendulum instead of a digital simulation?

Analog circuits provide a continuous-time representation which is more akin to the natural behavior of physical systems like a pendulum. Unlike digital simulations that work on discrete time steps, analog circuits can offer a more realistic, real-time dynamic response, which is useful for certain types of analysis and educational demonstrations.

What are the limitations of using an analog circuit for simulating a mathematical pendulum?

The limitations of using an analog circuit include the precision of the components like resistors and capacitors, which can introduce errors due to tolerance levels and temperature dependence. Additionally, the representation of non-linear functions such as sine and cosine is approximate and can deviate from the true values, affecting the accuracy of the simulation.

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