Are atomic energies increasing as the Universe expands?

In summary, the FRW metric can be used to calculate the proper distance between two spatially separated points at cosmological time t. By eliminating dr, we can find that ds(t) is equal to a(t) times ds(t_0), and if ds(t_0) is set to 1, then ds(t_0) is equal to 1/a(t). According to quantum mechanics, the mass/energy of a quantum system is inversely proportional to its size. However, this reasoning is not valid for bound systems like hydrogen atoms, as their relative motion is determined by forces other than the expansion of the universe. Therefore, one cannot infer that hydrogen atoms in the future will have a higher energy relative to today's hydrogen
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Starting from the FRW metric (for simplicity flat space, radial direction only):
$$ds^2=-c^2dt^2+a(t)^2dr^2$$
If we take [itex]dt=0[/itex] then the proper distance [itex]ds(t)[/itex] between two spatially separated points at cosmological time [itex]t[/itex] is given by:
$$ds(t)=a(t)dr$$
Now at the present time [itex]t_0[/itex] we can define [itex]a(t_0)=1[/itex] so that we also have:
$$ds(t_0)=dr$$
Therefore by eliminating [itex]dr[/itex] in the above equations we find:
$$ds(t)=a(t)\ ds(t_0)$$
If we define [itex]ds(t)=1[/itex] so that a hydrogen atom has a unit proper diameter, at any time [itex]t[/itex], then the equivalent diameter at the present time [itex]t_0[/itex] is given by:
$$ds(t_0)=\frac{1}{a(t)}$$
According to quantum mechanics the mass/energy of a quantum system is inversely proportional to its size.

Therefore if the mass/energy of the hydrogen atom at time [itex]t[/itex] is one unit then the mass/energy of an equivalent atomic system at the present time [itex]t_0[/itex] is [itex]a(t)[/itex] units.

Thus can one infer that hydrogen atoms at time [itex]t[/itex] in the future have an energy that is a factor [itex]a(t)[/itex] higher relative to the energy of hydrogen atoms today?
 
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The FRW metric applies only to a homogeneus and isotropic system. You cannot use it inside an atom, for example. And the expansion of the universe doesn't change the laws of nature, so the same energy levels exist also in the expanded universe.
 
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jcap said:
can one infer that hydrogen atoms at time
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t in the future have an energy that is a factor
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a(t) higher relative to the energy of hydrogen atoms today?

No, because a hydrogen atom is a bound system, and your reasoning is not valid for bound systems. It's only valid for objects which are "comoving", i.e., their relative motion is determined by the expansion of the universe. The individual parts of bound systems do not meet that criterion; their relative motion (if any) is determined by the forces binding them together (in the case of the hydrogen atom, the electromagnetic force between the electron and proton).
 

1. What is the relationship between atomic energies and the expansion of the Universe?

The expansion of the Universe does not directly affect atomic energies. Atomic energies are determined by the fundamental properties of atoms, such as their mass and charge. However, the expansion of the Universe can indirectly affect atomic energies by changing the temperature and density of the cosmic background radiation, which can influence atomic processes.

2. Are atomic energies increasing or decreasing as the Universe expands?

It is not accurate to say that atomic energies are increasing or decreasing as the Universe expands. The expansion of the Universe does not cause a change in the fundamental properties of atoms. However, the temperature and density of the cosmic background radiation, which can affect atomic processes, do change as the Universe expands.

3. How does the expansion of the Universe impact the behavior of atoms?

The expansion of the Universe can impact the behavior of atoms in several ways. It can alter the temperature and density of the cosmic background radiation, which can influence atomic processes. It can also affect the gravitational pull on atoms, potentially causing them to move at different velocities. Additionally, the expansion of the Universe can change the amount of space between atoms, potentially affecting their interactions.

4. Is the increase in atomic energies due to the expansion of the Universe sustainable?

The increase in atomic energies is not directly caused by the expansion of the Universe, so it is not sustainable or unsustainable in relation to the expansion. However, the increase in atomic energies may be affected by the changing conditions of the Universe, such as the temperature and density of the cosmic background radiation, which can vary over time.

5. How do scientists measure changes in atomic energies as the Universe expands?

Scientists can measure changes in atomic energies by studying the effects of the expansion of the Universe on the cosmic background radiation. They can also observe the behavior of atoms in different cosmic environments and compare the results to understand how the expansion of the Universe may be influencing atomic processes. Other techniques, such as spectroscopy, can also be used to measure changes in atomic energies over time.

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