Determine Polyatomic Charge: Sulfate (SO4)

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to determine the charge of a polyatomic ion based on the name of the element. The speaker suggests looking at the charge of the central atom as an ion, which is often the same as the charge of the polyatomic ion. This method works for elements in periods 3 or greater, and in groups 15 through 17. The suffix -ate is used for the higher oxyanion in the series, and assuming the prefix 'per-' is not present, the oxygens are all assumed to have a charge of -2. The normal oxidation state of sulfur is +6, and the speaker assumes that the listener has memorized the charges of all oxyanions.
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In writing a formula from the name of an element I can safely say I know how to figure out the number of oxygen it will have.

But take:

Sulfate: [tex]So^{-2}_{4}[/tex]
How do you determine the charge of it with just the name?
 
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From the name? You don't. However, I have had some success with looking at the charge the central
atom would hold if it were an ion, which is often (but not always; see carbonate and nitrate for counterexamples) the same as the charge of the polyatomic ion, however many oxygens there are. For example, all of the oxyacids of chlorine have the same charge as a chlorine ion, all of the oxyacids of sulfur and phosphorus have the same charge as sulfur and phosphorus ions, and so forth.

This idea that I use only seems to work in periods 3 or greater, and in groups 15 through 17 (or 5A through 7A).
 
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The suffix -ate is given to the higher of the oxyanions in the series. Without the prefix 'per-', assume the oxygens are all of -2 charge. Assume the the sulfur is in its normal oxidation state of +6 (sulfur has oxidation states of -2, +4 and +6) since you memorized(!) the charges of all of the oxyanions, of course!
 

Related to Determine Polyatomic Charge: Sulfate (SO4)

1. What is the overall charge of sulfate (SO4)?

The overall charge of sulfate (SO4) is -2. This is because sulfur has a charge of +4 and each oxygen has a charge of -2. Since there are four oxygen atoms in sulfate, the total charge is -8. To balance this, the sulfur atom must have a charge of +4, resulting in an overall charge of -2.

2. How do you determine the charge of each element in sulfate (SO4)?

To determine the charge of each element in sulfate (SO4), you need to know the overall charge and the number of atoms of each element present. In this case, there is one sulfur atom and four oxygen atoms. Since the total charge of sulfate is -2, the charge of sulfur must be +4 (4 x -2 = -8). The charge of each oxygen atom must be -2 to balance the overall charge.

3. What is the difference between polyatomic ions and monatomic ions?

Polyatomic ions are composed of multiple atoms bonded together with an overall charge. Monatomic ions, on the other hand, consist of a single atom with a positive or negative charge. Sulfate (SO4) is an example of a polyatomic ion, while sodium (Na+) is an example of a monatomic ion.

4. How can you determine the charge of a polyatomic ion?

To determine the charge of a polyatomic ion, you need to know the charges of the individual atoms and the number of atoms present in the ion. The total charge of the ion is the sum of the individual charges. For example, in sulfate (SO4), the charge of sulfur (+4) plus the charge of each oxygen (-2) equals -2 as the overall charge.

5. Why is sulfate (SO4) a negatively charged ion?

Sulfate (SO4) is a negatively charged ion because the overall charge of the ion is -2. This is due to the presence of four oxygen atoms, each with a charge of -2, and one sulfur atom with a charge of +4. The negative charge is balanced by the positive charge of other ions in a compound, such as sodium (Na+), to create a neutral compound.

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