Energy/calories and average force

In summary, "someone" says that the average force is the same in the below example, even though the energy/calories used are different. This is not true, as the example 1 below is traveling faster and for more distance using more power.
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Energy/calories and average force.

If you look in all Nutrition books and sites, you use/burn far far far more energy/calories when doing the same activity twice as fast. However someone says as the average force is the same in the below example, that you use the same energy/calories, I say this is not true, as the example 1 below is traveling faster and for more distance using more power. {work energy}

1,
Bench press 80 pounds or 80% of your RM {repetition maximum} 6 times up and 6 times down, 1 second up and 1 second down = 12 seconds in all. 1m each way = 12m in all.

2,
Bench press 80 pounds or 80% of your RM {repetition maximum} 1 time up and 1 time down, 6 seconds up and 6 second6 down = 12 seconds in all. 1m each way = 2m in all.

Wayne
 
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someone says as the average force is the same in the below example, that you use the same energy/calories
Reference "someone" please!
 
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Hi Wayne, I would have preferred to see what exactly "someone" said so I knew exactly what case we were discussing, but let me try anyway.

First off let me say that you will burn more calories doing the 6 presses of option "1".

Where I'm guessing that you are running into conceptual problems is in trying to equate energy consumption of the human body to the amount of useful output work. Typically with exercise the amount of metabolic energy used by the body is far greater than the amount of useful work performed. In fact a significant proportion of the extra (above basal metabolic) energy consumed during exercise often occurs after the exercise session has completed, due to the increased metabolic rate induced by the exercise! (which can last for quite a long time after the exercise session is over).
 
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As for the bench press repetitions, there is actually no net work done in either case. On the up press your arms are doing work on the weights and on the down press the weights are doing work on your arms. Of course your arms are not able to "regeneratively brake", so you actually use metabolic energy on both the up press and the down press. In the end however it's all wasted energy and no net work is done on the weights.
 
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Hi there uart, thanks for your time and answer, I will try and get the person to tell me exactely what he's means.

Wayne
 

1. What is the relationship between energy/calories and average force?

The relationship between energy/calories and average force can be described by the equation E=Fd, where E is energy, F is force, and d is distance. This means that the amount of energy expended or calories burned is directly proportional to the average force applied over a distance.

2. How are energy/calories and average force measured?

Energy/calories and average force are measured using different units. Energy is measured in joules (J) or calories (cal), while force is measured in newtons (N). Average force is calculated by dividing the total force applied over a period of time by the duration of that time.

3. How does energy/calories affect average force?

Energy/calories can affect average force in different ways. In terms of physical activity, consuming more calories can provide the body with more energy to exert a greater average force. On the other hand, if the body is in a state of caloric deficit, it may not have enough energy to sustain a high average force output.

4. How does average force impact energy/calories needed?

The amount of average force exerted during physical activity can impact the number of energy/calories needed. A higher average force output will require more energy/calories to sustain the activity. Additionally, the type of activity and duration of the activity can also affect the amount of energy/calories needed.

5. How do energy/calories and average force play a role in weight loss/gain?

Energy/calories and average force play a crucial role in weight loss/gain. In order to lose weight, one must either consume fewer calories than they expend or increase their average force output through physical activity. Similarly, weight gain occurs when more energy/calories are consumed than expended through average force output.

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