"Fluid particle is an abstraction" (ANSYS simulations)

In summary, the concept of a fluid particle in fluid dynamics refers to an abstract particle that has the properties of the fluid, rather than a real particle made up of individual molecules. This allows for the study of infinitesimally small volumes of fluid without considering the behavior of individual molecules. The term "abstract" in this context means expressing a quality apart from an object, rather than being hypothetical.
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A real fluid is a collection of molecules. At the macroscopic level, you describe the fluid as a continuous substance, emerging from the collective behavior of the molecules, but without treating it as made up of molecules. In other words, you zoom out and don't see individual molecules, just a continuous fluid.

When you do fluid dynamics, you need to consider an infinitesimally small volume of that fluid. But as you zoom back in, you don't come back to a molecule (you never consider the behavior of individual molecules). You simply take smaller and smaller amounts of the fluid, keeping the same properties as the bulk of the fluid.

In that sense, the fluid particle is not a real particle (i.e., a molecule), but an abstract particle that has the properties of the fluid.
 
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DrClaude said:
A real fluid is a collection of molecules. At the macroscopic level, you describe the fluid as a continuous substance, emerging from the collective behavior of the molecules, but without treating it as made up of molecules. In other words, you zoom out and don't see individual molecules, just a continuous fluid.

When you do fluid dynamics, you need to consider an infinitesimally small volume of that fluid. But as you zoom back in, you don't come back to a molecule (you never consider the behavior of individual molecules). You simply take smaller and smaller amounts of the fluid, keeping the same properties as the bulk of the fluid.

In that sense, the fluid particle is not a real particle (i.e., a molecule), but an abstract particle that has the properties of the fluid.

Then, does abstract mean here imaginary?

Thank you.
 
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mech-eng said:
Then, does abstract mean here imaginary?
If you mean "imaginary" in the sense "doesn't really exist," then yeah, sort of.

But "abstract" is really the correct word:
Merriam-Webster said:
2 : expressing a quality apart from an object
 
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DrClaude said:
If you mean "imaginary" in the sense "doesn't really exist," then yeah, sort of.

But "abstract" is really the correct word:

For years ago, I encountered with "hypothetical planet". Does abstract here also mean "hypothetical"?
Thank you.
 
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mech-eng said:
For years ago, I encountered with "hypothetical planet". Does abstract here also mean "hypothetical"?
Not at all. "Hypothetical" means that someone made a hypothesis that it might exist. Nobody is postulating that the fluid particle really exists, we know it doesn't. But we still use the concept of a fluid particle.
 

What is a fluid particle in ANSYS simulations?

A fluid particle in ANSYS simulations is an abstraction used to model the behavior of a small volume of fluid within a larger system. It is represented by a set of properties such as mass, momentum, and energy, which can change as the particle interacts with its surroundings.

Why is a fluid particle considered an abstraction?

A fluid particle in ANSYS simulations is considered an abstraction because it is a simplified representation of the complex behavior of real fluids. It allows for easier analysis and simulation of fluid flow, but it does not capture all the nuances and complexities of real fluids.

How are fluid particles used in ANSYS simulations?

Fluid particles in ANSYS simulations are used to simulate the behavior of fluids within a larger system, such as in a fluid flow analysis. They are also used to track the movement and interaction of fluids with other objects or boundaries in the system.

Can a fluid particle be treated as a solid particle in ANSYS simulations?

No, a fluid particle cannot be treated as a solid particle in ANSYS simulations. Solid particles have different physical properties and behave differently than fluid particles. ANSYS simulations have separate tools and methods for modeling and analyzing solid particles.

What are the limitations of using fluid particles in ANSYS simulations?

The use of fluid particles in ANSYS simulations has certain limitations. For example, it may not accurately capture the behavior of real fluids under extreme conditions, such as at high velocities or temperatures. Additionally, it may not account for all the complexities of turbulence or multiphase flow. It is important to carefully consider these limitations when using fluid particles in ANSYS simulations.

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