Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation

In summary, the student is struggling with understanding a step in Griffiths's derivation of the quantum harmonic oscillator. They are specifically wondering how the equations at the top of the second attached photo were derived from the last equation in the first photo. They ask for help and suggest a possible solution involving the use of an exact solution. Upon further consideration, they realize that the solution may be as simple as dividing the previous term by j/2.
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I am unsure as to a step in Griffiths's derivation of the quantum harmonic oscillator. In particular, I am wondering how he arrived at the equations at the top of the second attached photo, from the last equation (at the bottom) of the first photo (which is the recursion relation approximated for large j).

Any help?

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Substitute the approx. solution into the approx. equation. Is it satisfied?
 
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Is there a way to derive the solutions besides via a fortiori means?
 
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The could be some clever way, but since the exact solution is known, the approx. solution could equally have been obtained from it.

EDIT: it actually seems very simple: since for every "next" term we divide the previous by j/2, one should expect (j/2)! in the denominator, and c/(j/2)! should be fairly obvious as a possible solution.
 
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I am not familiar with the specific derivation of the quantum harmonic oscillator by Griffiths. However, I can offer some general insights and suggestions that may help you understand the derivation better.

Firstly, it is important to note that the quantum harmonic oscillator is a widely studied and well-understood system in quantum mechanics. Therefore, there are many resources available that may provide a more detailed explanation of the derivation, such as textbooks, online lectures or discussions with colleagues.

In terms of the specific step you are struggling with, it may be helpful to review the concept of recursion relations and how they are used in physics. Additionally, it may be beneficial to break down the equations and examine each term individually to understand their meaning and how they contribute to the overall derivation.

It is also important to keep in mind that derivations can often be complex and require a strong understanding of the underlying principles and mathematical techniques. If you are still struggling, I suggest seeking guidance from your instructor or a more experienced colleague who may be able to provide a more in-depth explanation.

Overall, understanding derivations in physics can take time and effort, so don't be discouraged if you are struggling. Keep persevering and seeking help when needed, and eventually, you will have a better understanding of the derivation.
 

Related to Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation

What is the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation?

The Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation is a mathematical derivation that models the behavior of a quantum harmonic oscillator, which is a system that follows the laws of quantum mechanics and behaves like a simple harmonic oscillator. It was developed by physicist David Griffiths in his textbook "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics".

Why is the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation important?

The Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation is important because it allows us to understand and predict the behavior of quantum harmonic oscillators, which are present in many physical systems such as atoms, molecules, and solid materials. It also serves as a fundamental example of how quantum mechanics can be applied to classical systems.

What are the key steps in the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation?

The key steps in the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation include defining the Hamiltonian operator, solving the time-independent Schrödinger equation, applying the ladder operator technique, and determining the energy eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of the system. These steps involve using mathematical techniques such as differential equations, linear algebra, and operator algebra.

What are some applications of the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation?

The Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation has many applications in physics and engineering, such as in the study of atomic and molecular spectra, the design of electronic circuits, and the development of quantum computing algorithms. It also serves as a basis for understanding more complex quantum systems.

Are there any limitations to the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation?

Like any mathematical model, the Griffiths quantum harmonic oscillator derivation has its limitations. It assumes that the system is in a stationary state, that is, it does not take into account the time evolution of the system. It also does not consider the effects of external forces or interactions with other particles. Additionally, it is only applicable to systems that can be described by a simple harmonic potential.

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