Hermitian operators and cummutators problem

In summary, A, B, and C are three Hermitian operators with the property that [A,B]=0 and [B,C]=0. This means that there exists a common eigenstate for all three operators and they commute. However, this does not necessarily mean that A and C will have common eigenvectors. The Jacobi identity also shows that while [A,B]=0 and [B,C]=0, [A,C] may not equal 0, indicating that A and C may not commute.
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A,B and C are three hermitian operators such that [A,B]=0, [B,C]=0.
Does A necessarily commutes with C?
 
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yes since if [tex] [A,B] \psi = 0 , [B,C] \psi = 0 [/tex] that means that there exists a psi which is an eigenstate of all three and all operators commute

or you could try the Jacobi identity
 
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@sgd37:
A and B have some common eigenvectors, and so does B and C; but it doesn't necessarily mean that A and C will have common eigenvectors.
 
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Sure. But in that case you have some kind of algebra going on. I was naive in thinking they belonged to the same set. But no. If you consider the components of the angular momentum operator and the L^2 operator
 
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No, from the Jacobi identity one obtains

[tex] [[C,A],B] = 0 [/tex]
 
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No, let A = x, B = y, C = px

[A, B] = [x, y] = 0

[B, C] = [y, px] = 0

But,

[A, C] = [x, px] = [itex]i \hbar \neq 0[/itex]
 

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1. What is a Hermitian operator?

A Hermitian operator is a mathematical concept that is used in quantum mechanics to describe physical observables, such as position, momentum, and energy. It is a linear operator that satisfies the condition of being equal to its own conjugate transpose.

2. Why are Hermitian operators important in quantum mechanics?

Hermitian operators are important in quantum mechanics because they correspond to physical observables and have real eigenvalues. This allows us to make predictions about the behavior of particles and systems in quantum mechanics.

3. What is the commutator of two Hermitian operators?

The commutator of two Hermitian operators is a mathematical operation that measures how much the two operators fail to commute. It is defined as the difference between the product of the two operators and the product of the two operators in reverse order.

4. What does the commutator tell us about two Hermitian operators?

The commutator of two Hermitian operators can tell us if the operators are compatible, meaning they can have simultaneous eigenstates. If the commutator is zero, the operators are compatible and can be measured at the same time. If the commutator is non-zero, the operators are not compatible and cannot be measured simultaneously.

5. How are Hermitian operators and commutators used in solving quantum mechanics problems?

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