Math of a spiral with two constants

In summary, the conversation discusses the type of spiral with constant angular velocity and constant magnitude of velocity. The closest type is the Archimedean spiral, but the spiral in question has a constant total magnitude of velocity. The conversation then goes on to describe the spiral mathematically, with the use of parametric equations and calculus.
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Homework Statement


What type of spiral has constant angular velocity and constant magnitude of velocity? Is there a description of the mathematics that describe the spiral?

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The Attempt at a Solution


The closest type I can find is the Archimedean spiral, which is the locus of points corresponding to the locations over time of a point that moves away from a fixed point with a constant speed along a line that rotates with constant angular velocity.

The spiral that I am interested in is the locus of points corresponding to the locations over time of a point that (a) moves away from a fixed point along a line that rotates with a constant angular velocity, and (b) moves with a constant magnitude of velocity. Unlike the Archimedean spiral, the moving point does not move at a constant speed along the rotating line. Instead, it moves at a constant total magnitude of velocity, with the result that its speed along the rotating line decreases as the point moves farther from the fixed center (because the moving point's total magnitude of velocity is constant, and its magnitude of tangential velocity increases as it moves farther from the fixed center).

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(a) moves away from a fixed point along a line that rotates with a constant angular velocity
The next step is to describe it mathematically ... easiest done parametrically in polar coordinates, since you are including the physics terms "angular velocity" - we shall interpret that as the rate of change of the angle with some arbitrary parameter we'll call "t".

So you are describing something like: ##(r,\theta) = (ut,\omega t)##, in polar coordinates, parameterised by ##t##: ##u## and ##\omega## are constants defining the spiral. Notice that u=0 describes a point at the origin. If you put r = c+ut then u=0 is a circle radius c.

Now we need to find r as a function of angle:
So ##r=(u/\omega)\theta## would be an Archimedean spiral with ##a=0## and ##b=u/\omega##, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedean_spiral

(b) moves with a constant magnitude of velocity
... for this one you want to do some calculus to get the equation.
Follow the same process and it may match with a standard equation with a name.

(A quick zip through .. if I put u=const and allow angular velocity to vary so that the speed is a constant, the shape I get is on the list of spiral types in wikipedia.)
 
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Thanks, I'll have a look.
 

1. What is a spiral with two constants?

A spiral with two constants is a mathematical concept that describes a curve or shape that continuously expands or contracts while maintaining a constant distance between two points. It is defined by two mathematical constants, known as the growth factor and the rotation factor, which determine the rate and direction of the spiral's growth.

2. How is a spiral with two constants different from a regular spiral?

A regular spiral, or logarithmic spiral, also expands or contracts while maintaining a constant distance from a fixed point. However, a spiral with two constants has the added element of a second fixed point, which influences the spiral's growth and direction. This creates a more complex and dynamic shape compared to a regular spiral.

3. What are some real-world applications of spirals with two constants?

Spirals with two constants can be found in many natural and man-made structures, such as seashells, hurricanes, and galaxies. They are also used in engineering and design, such as in the construction of bridges and spiral staircases. Additionally, they have practical applications in fields such as biology, physics, and computer graphics.

4. How are the two constants related to each other in a spiral?

The two constants, growth factor and rotation factor, are interdependent in a spiral with two constants. The growth factor determines the rate at which the spiral expands or contracts, while the rotation factor determines the direction of the spiral's growth. Together, these constants create a unique and specific spiral shape.

5. Can the two constants be changed to create different types of spirals?

Yes, the two constants can be altered to create different types of spirals. Changing the growth factor will result in a spiral with a different rate of expansion or contraction, while changing the rotation factor will change the direction of the spiral's growth. This allows for a wide range of possible spiral shapes and patterns.

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