Reducing Bessel Function Integral

In summary, the conversation discusses two different attempts at using integration by parts with different values for u and dv. However, both attempts do not lead to a favorable outcome. The book provides an answer, which involves the use of certain identities and the application of integration by parts twice. This eventually leads to the desired solution. The person asking for help realizes their mistake and solves the problem.
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Jacob Nie
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Homework Statement
Any integral of the form ##\int x^m J_n(x) dx## can be evaluated in terms of Bessel functions and the indefinite integral ##\int J_0(x)dx,## which cannot be simplified further. Use the identities ##J_p'(x) = J_{p-1}(x) - \dfrac{p}{x}J_p(x)## and ##J_p'(x) = \dfrac{p}{x} J_p(x) - J_{p+1}(x)## to evaluate ##\int x^2J_0(x)dx.##
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Should be able to do it with just the two properties listed in the problem.
I tried integration by parts with both ##u = x^2, dv = J_0 dx## and ##u = J_0, du = -J_1 dx, dv = x^2 dx.## But neither gets me in a very good place at all. With the first, I begin to get integrals within integrals, and with the second my powers of ##x## in the integral would keep growing instead of getting smaller.

The book's answer is ##x^2J_1(x) + xJ_1(x) - \int J_0(x)dx + C.## (BTW the book is Elementary DE by Edwards and Penney)

How do I get to that? I appreciate any help!
 
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Sorry - I have solved it.

I gave the wrong identities - these are more directly useful: ##\dfrac{d}{dx}\left(x^pJ_p(x)\right) = x^pJ_{p-1}(x)## and ##\dfrac{d}{dx}\left(x^{-p}J_p(x)\right) = -x^{-p}J_{p+1}(x).## (Although, the identities I gave are attained simply by carrying out the differentiations here!)

With ##p=1,## we have
$$\dfrac{d}{dx}(xJ_1) = xJ_0\implies \int xJ_0 dx = xJ_1.$$
Then the integration by parts is better carried out with ##u=x, du=dx, dv=xJ_0dx, v=xJ_1##:
$$\int x^2J_0 dx = x^2J_1 - \int xJ_1dx.$$
Then with ##p=0,## we have
$$\dfrac{d}{dx}J_0 = -J_1\implies \int J_1dx = -J_0.$$
Integration by parts again: ##u=x, du=dx, dv=J_1dx, v=-J_0##:
$$\int x^2J_0dx = x^2J_1 + xJ_0 - \int J_0 dx,$$
as desired.
(Sorry that was a typo in the original post.)
 

1. What is a Bessel function integral?

A Bessel function integral is a mathematical function that is used to solve problems in many areas of science and engineering. It is named after the German mathematician Friedrich Bessel and is defined as an integral of a Bessel function over a specified range.

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