Some #$%@*$ stole my &$*%# clothes

[Math Is Hard]

MIH, your next birthday i will buy you a swanky new skirt, if Greg will pass it on, will that be ok?

Aw, Wol. You have such a kind heart. You are making my eyes tear up.

 

[Math Is Hard]

The only distinction I would make would be if she really noticed the clothes were not hers or not. We don't know if she realized it. It could have been an honest mistake. With that much laundry, she probably loses track of whose stuff is whose in her household (it seems that much laundry could only be generated by multiple children, and if a few are teens who buy some of their own clothes, she may have no clue anymore who owns what in her house).

I had not considered that. When my Mom had 3 teenagers in the house she had insane amounts of laundry to deal with (the bulk of it belonging to my sister who changes clothes about 3 or 4 times a day!) She has even mailed me clothes that she thought I had left behind when I was visiting, not realizing that they belonged to my sister.

 

[Astronuc]

MIH, I was wondering if you or the owner had contacted the security office at the mall. Perhaps they got the lady on tape leaving, and perhaps got the car. How did she get all those clothes to and from the laundromat?

Grumpy could be a sign of a bad day (e.g. her own washer/dryer had failed), or she is mentally ill, and perhaps homeless. I have seen people in our area and in San Diego with their cars full of stuff, e.g. clothes, papers, miscellaneous - even pets. They park on side streets and just hangout. The San Diego area has the luxury of public showers at various beaches.

If you had been there for 10 minutes I would think that was enough time for her to come over and tell you that she was using the machine, especially if she had 6 dryers going. It should have been obviouse to here that the clothes she was removing were not hers.

I guess like Artman mentioned, don't dwell on it.

I have a hard time find pants in my size - 30-31 waist - but with large legs. Back when I road a bicycle everyday, my legs were very muscular and disproprortionately large (wide) compared to my waist.

 

[Math Is Hard]

MIH, I was wondering if you or the own had contacted the security office at the mall. Perhaps they got the lady on tape leaving, and perhaps got the car. How did she get all those clothes to and from the laundromat?

She had her car parked in front, but unfortunately they don't have cameras outside. They just have security guys who ride around on bikes.

Gumpy could be a sign of a bad day (e.g. her own washer/dryer had failed), or she is mentally ill, and perhaps homeless. I have seen people in our area and in San Diego with their cars full of stuff, e.g. clothes, papers, miscellaneous - even pets. They park on side streets and just hangout. The San Diego area has the luxury of public showers at various beaches.

Funny you said "mentally ill" because for some reason I thought that, and even mentioned it to the owner. There was something about her that was a little "off", a little hostile. I tend to think she wasn't homeless- at least I am sure she wasn't one of our local homeless. I know pretty much all of them.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I disagree. If she took my clothes by accident, it was not a theft. If she took my clothes on purpose, then it is a theft. It doesn't make her any 'less of a criminal' if she took advantage of a situation.

Because you're you it's probably impossible to see that to her you could look like a tweaker dryer hijacker, or some such. By "less of a criminal" of course, I meant that instead of being a straightforward petty thief she becomes in this scenario, a conclusion jumper to-er who goes overboard in trying to teach someone a lesson about laundromat etiquette.

 

[Math Is Hard]

Because you're you it's probably impossible to see that to her you could look like a tweaker dryer hijacker, or some such. By "less of a criminal" of course, I meant that instead of being a straightforward petty thief she becomes in this scenario, a conclusion jumper to-er who goes overboard in trying to teach someone a lesson about laundromat etiquette.

Nevertheless, I don't think that excuse would buy her much leniency in a court of law. It's tantamount to the rapist's argument that his victim was asking for it.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Nevertheless, I don't think that excuse would buy her much leniency in a court of law. It's tantamount to the rapist's argument that his victim was asking for it.

We're not in a court of law and this has nothing to do with a rapist blaming the victim to escape culpability. It changes the situation from an outright theft to someone choosing a fairly harsh response to someone who first violated them. I, personally, would be highly ticked off if someone threw clothes in on top of mine, started up the dryer and left. I would sit there stewing about how anyone could be so spaced out and rude. You're gone so she can't even confront you about it. All kinds of scenarios go through her mind: did you do it on purpose to annoy her cause you don't like the look on her face? Are you on drugs? Do you just consider her laundry less important than hers? She gets angirier and angrier. Finally she decides to handle it by leaving and taking your clothes with her. The thought you somehow didn't see her clothes in the dryer never crosses her mind.

For your peace of mind you'd like it so that she's a clear-cut lawbreaker. To me, if she actually had clothes in the dryer, the situation ends up being a great deal muddier, accidental and unfortunate. This is a basic conservative/liberal personality difference between you and I.

 

[Math Is Hard]

We're not in a court of law and this has nothing to do with a rapist blaming the victim to escape culpability. It changes the situation from an outright theft to someone choosing a fairly harsh response to someone who first violated them.

A "fairly harsh response" would be dumping the clothes on the floor, or even the trash - but not stealing them.

I, personally, would be highly ticked off if someone threw clothes in on top of mine, started up the dryer and left. I would sit there stewing about how anyone could be so spaced out and rude. You're gone so she can't even confront you about it. All kinds of scenarios go through her mind: did you do it on purpose to annoy her cause you don't like the look on her face? Are you on drugs? Do you just consider her laundry less important than hers? She gets angirier and angrier. Finally she decides to handle it by leaving and taking your clothes with her. The thought you somehow didn't see her clothes in the dryer never crosses her mind.

She had ten minutes to say something to me about it. I was standing right by the dryer reading a magazine. But that doesn't really matter, because the bottom line is: you don't get to steal from someone just because you are angry at them or suspicious of them.

For your peace of mind you'd like it so that she's a clear-cut lawbreaker. To me, if she actually had clothes in the dryer, the situation ends up being a great deal muddier, accidental and unfortunate. This is a basic conservative/liberal personality difference between you and I.

No, for my peace of mind, I would like it so that it was not a theft at all, but a mix-up where my laundry was taken unintentionally - perhaps someone doing laundry for a charity, as I mentioned. But it doesn't matter what I would like, or what you would like, or what anyone would like. If she took the clothes on purpose, then she is a clear-cut law-breaker. There is no deal-muddling here. It's theft.

 

[Moonbear]

MIH has asked that this thread be locked (dwelling over the problem doesn't seem to be helping it). So, where's Cyrus when you need him: thread locked.