Substitution reaction between methane and bromine

In summary, the conversation discusses the reaction between one mole of methane and one mole of bromine, which results in the production of methyl bromide and hydrogen bromide. It is then explored how increasing the amount of bromine can lead to different product ratios and the role of electronegativity in determining the final products. It is also mentioned that the synthesis of hydrogen bromide is exothermic, which contributes to its production in the reaction.
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We can react one mole of ##CH_4## and one mole of ##Br_2## to obtain the following equation:
## CH_4 + Br_2 \rightarrow CH_3 Br + HBr ##

A single bromine atom switches places with a single hydrogen atom. Now, if we supply a greater amount of ##Br_2## while keeping the amount of ##CH_4## the same then we can replace more than one of the hydrogen atoms in each of the ##CH_4## molecules with ##Br## atoms. So suppose we react one mole of ##CH_4## with two moles of ##Br_2##. Then for each ##CH_4## molecule there are four ##Br## atoms. Thus we may have the equation:
##CH_4 + 2Br_2 \rightarrow CBr_4 + 2H_2##

However, we can also balance the equation in the following manner:
##CH_4 + 2Br_2 \rightarrow CH_2Br_2 + 2HBr##

So what actually happens and why does that happen as oppose to the other one? The first equation seems to me to represent a lower energy state for the products, but the second equation seems to represent a drive toward increasing entropy. As far as I know, a system will drive towards the lowest energy state but also drive toward increasing entropy, unless one of the drives overcomes the other. Now, looking at the electronegativities of hydrogen, carbon and bromine, the difference in electronegativities between bromine and hydrogen is greater than the difference in electronegativities between any other two of the possible atoms and hence the system will tend toward the product ##CH_2Br_2 + 2HBr##

I would appreciate if someone could please correct me where I have gone wrong.
 
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Reaction mechanism is such that the HBr is one of the products.

Besides, assuming your second reaction is right - at some point you have a mixture of H2 and Br2. What do they do when they are mixed?
 
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##H_2 + Br_2 \rightarrow 2HBr##

Borek, why is the reaction mechanism such that ##HBr## is produced?
 
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It is not in the mechanism, it is in thermodynamics. HBr synthesis is exothermic and that's enough in this case.
 
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1. What is a substitution reaction?

In a substitution reaction, one atom or group of atoms replaces another atom or group of atoms in a molecule. This type of reaction is common in organic chemistry.

2. How does the substitution reaction between methane and bromine occur?

In the reaction between methane (CH4) and bromine (Br2), one of the hydrogen atoms in methane is replaced by a bromine atom, forming bromomethane (CH3Br) and hydrogen bromide (HBr) as byproducts.

3. What is the role of a catalyst in the substitution reaction between methane and bromine?

A catalyst is not required for the substitution reaction between methane and bromine to occur. However, a radical initiator, such as light or heat, is typically used to initiate the reaction.

4. What are the conditions necessary for the substitution reaction between methane and bromine to take place?

The reaction typically occurs at high temperatures (around 500°C) and in the presence of a radical initiator. It also requires the presence of gaseous bromine and gaseous methane in the reaction vessel.

5. What are some applications of the substitution reaction between methane and bromine?

The reaction is commonly used in the production of alkyl bromides, which are important intermediates in the synthesis of a variety of organic compounds. It can also be used to produce other halogenated compounds, such as chloromethane and fluoromethane.

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