Thermodynamics: dropping iron into thermos of nitrogen at boiling point

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the pressure inside a well-insulated thermos bottle containing a boiling liquid nitrogen and nitrogen gas at thermal equilibrium. The pressure is determined by calculating the energy brought in by a piece of iron, using the ideal gas law to find the number of nitrogen gas molecules that enter the system, and using the density of liquid nitrogen to find the final volume of gas. The final pressure is found to be approximately 15 atmospheres.
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Homework Statement


You come into lab one day and find a well insulated 2000mL thermos bottle containing 500mL of boiling liquid nitrogen. The remainder of the thermos has nitrogen gas at a pressure of 1.0atm. The gas and liquid are in thermal equilibrium. While waiting for lab to start, you notice a piece of iron on the table with "197g" written on it. Just for fun, you drop the iron into the thermos and seal the cap tightly so that no can can escape. After a few seconds have passed, what is the pressure inside the thermos? The density of liquid nitrogen is 810kg/m^3


Homework Equations


PV=nRT
Enthalpy of Vaporization (Nitrogen) = 5.577kJ/mol
specific heat (iron) = 0.45J/gK
Q=mass*specific heat*Δtemperature
Room Temperature = 21C = 293K
Boiling Point Nitrogen = 77.36K

The Attempt at a Solution



1.) Find energy value of the iron

using iron's specific heat value, I can find out how much Q iron brings to the system.

Knowing that the final temperature of the iron is going to be 77.36K because of how much energy it takes to vaporize all of the liquid nitrogen, i set up iron's Q equation:

Q(iron) = 197g*0.45J/gK*(77.36K-293K) = -19116.48J

this pretty much means that the iron is bringing in 19116.48J into the system.

2.) 19116.48J is done on liquid nitrogen

  • temperature will not change
  • will try to change phase into vapor
  • know that enthalpy of vaporization for nitrogen is 5.577kJ/mol

this 5.577kJ/mol value, to me, seems to say that nitrogen changes from a liquid to a gas at the rate of 1 mol for every 5.577kJ done on it.

using this logic, I calculate how many mols of the liquid nitrogen turns into gas.

5577J/mol = 19116.48J/x mol

using a calculator, x = 3.42

3.) 3.42 mols of nitrogen gas enters the system

now that we are talking gasses, I may use the ideal gas law PV=nRT

1atm = 101325pa

for the initial state of the system
P = 101325pa
V = 0.0015m^3
T = 77.36K
n = (after calculating) = 0.236 mols

for the final state of the system
V=
since 3.42 mols of liquid nitrogen also leaves the system
3.42*(atomic mass of nitrogen is 14g/mol) = 47.88g
density of liquid nitrogen is 810kg/m^3

810000g/m^3 = 47.88g/(x)m^3

x = 5.91X10^(-5)

so V = (0.0015+0.0000591)m^3 = 0.0015591
n = (0.236+3.42)mol = 3.656mol
T = 77.36K
so P is 1508284.42pa or ≈ 15atm which is the book's answer.

Does it look like I solved this correctly? I never got the answer right until now!
 
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Looks good to me. You didn't really need to find the additional gas volume that was made available by the nitrogen that boiled. It's just such a tiny volume.
 

1. What is thermodynamics?

Thermodynamics is a branch of physics that studies the relationship between heat, energy, and work. It explains how energy is transferred and transformed between different forms, such as heat, work, and internal energy.

2. What happens when iron is dropped into a thermos of nitrogen at boiling point?

When iron is dropped into a thermos of nitrogen at boiling point, the nitrogen gas molecules will collide with the iron atoms, transferring heat energy to the iron. This causes the iron to heat up and eventually reach the same temperature as the nitrogen, resulting in thermal equilibrium.

3. Why is the boiling point of nitrogen important in this scenario?

The boiling point of nitrogen is important because it represents the temperature at which the liquid nitrogen is in equilibrium with its vapor. This means that at boiling point, the rate of nitrogen molecules evaporating is equal to the rate of nitrogen molecules condensing, resulting in a constant temperature.

4. How does thermodynamics explain the behavior of the iron and nitrogen in this situation?

Thermodynamics explains the behavior of the iron and nitrogen by using the laws of thermodynamics, which state that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed. When the iron is dropped into the thermos of nitrogen, energy is transferred from the nitrogen to the iron, causing the iron to reach thermal equilibrium with the nitrogen.

5. Can this experiment be used to demonstrate any thermodynamic principles?

Yes, this experiment can demonstrate the principle of thermal equilibrium, as well as the first and second laws of thermodynamics. The first law states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed, which is evident in the transfer of heat energy from the nitrogen to the iron. The second law states that energy will always flow from a higher temperature to a lower temperature, which is demonstrated as the iron reaches thermal equilibrium with the nitrogen at boiling point.

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