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There are some good people coming out of the works for sure. Wish I could be there to help.Greg Bernhardt said:The stories coming out of the Houston area are chilling. I hate to see the misery, but cheer on the heroic acts of those putting themselves in danger to assist people in need.
Really hope they're okay. I've heard it's hard to contact people for many reasons such as communication lines, or they lost their phones in the muck. My buddy is in the fire department further south but fire and rescue and other relief organizations and citizens are working non stop.Evo said:My mother and youngest sister live there, still trying to find out how they are.
Is this a separate one? I've heard Harvey might double back to where it came from as well.MarkFL said:A local meteorologist said today that in about 10 days time, the SE Atlantic coast of the U.S. could be threatened by a category 4-5 hurricane. That's a long way out, but it still caught my attention. The model he is using is the same one that predicted very accurately what Hurricane Harvey did. My heart goes out to the folks affected in SE Texas.
More than 300 gators could escape as Texas flood waters approach height of fences
Harvey was cat 4. I think it also depends on the elevations of the east coast. Have you been through a hurricane in St. Augustine, FL.?MarkFL said:A local meteorologist said today that in about 10 days time, the SE Atlantic coast of the U.S. could be threatened by a category 4-5 hurricane.
berkeman said:And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...
berkeman said:And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...
http://kron4.com/2017/08/29/more-th...texas-flood-waters-approach-height-of-fences/
Irma: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/MarkFL said:A local meteorologist said today that in about 10 days time, the SE Atlantic coast of the U.S. could be threatened by a category 4-5 hurricane. That's a long way out, but it still caught my attention. The model he is using is the same one that predicted very accurately what Hurricane Harvey did. My heart goes out to the folks affected in SE Texas.
Greg Bernhardt said:Harvey was cat 4. I think it also depends on the elevations of the east coast. Have you been through a hurricane in St. Augustine, FL.?
MarkFL said:A local meteorologist said today that in about 10 days time, the SE Atlantic coast of the U.S. could be threatened by a category 4-5 hurricane.
berkeman said:And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...
http://kron4.com/2017/08/29/more-th...texas-flood-waters-approach-height-of-fences/
On Facebook, there is a page for Harvey, where people can mark themselves as Safe, or needing help (or people who can offer help). It is pretty cool. There may be other website/service to check on people, but I am not aware.Evo said:My mother and youngest sister live there, still trying to find out how they are.
I know. Where I live, I decided to make my own rain gauge out of a Tupperware style plastic container. The sides were practically vertical an it was about 6 inches tall. It fit nicely into a cinder block, so I was fairly certain that it wouldn't blow away (it did not). I didn't start until 5 pm on Saturday the 26th, though. The next morning when I woke up at 7:30 it was at the brim. I had not planned on that. I dumped it and kept recording into a spreadsheet.phinds said:I STILL simply can't get my mind around the concept of 50 INCHES ! of rain falling in a few days. I mean that sounds practically biblical.
I have seen the floating clusters in floodwater. I did not know how they did it, till now. The attack mode sounds about right. It was an interesting article. I was not aware about the South American origin. In general, it looks like the animals seem to take care of themselves.256bits said:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/....html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20170830
Watch where you put your foot down.
These must be a different breed - native to S.America? the article said. An invasive species.
All the critters down there birds, mammals, insects, reptiles, would have to be a little bit confused as to what is going on.
scottdave said:I have seen the floating clusters in floodwater. I did not know how they did it, till now. The attack mode sounds about right. It was an interesting article. I was not aware about the South American origin. In general, it looks like the animals seem to take care of themselves.
My niece, her husband, and 3 children live there. It was like pulling teeth to find out their situation.Evo said:My mother and youngest sister live there, still trying to find out how they are.
social experiment you say...OmCheeto said:If a man and a woman both post the same thing on social media; "Why are people building in flood plains?" (we are/were both clueless armchair quarterbacks, btw)
The man will get 25 "Frowns" and 9 "Likes", while the woman will get 191 "Likes" and only 17 "Frowns".
OmCheeto said:If a man and a woman both post the same thing on social media; "Why are people building in flood plains?" (we are/were both clueless armchair quarterbacks, btw)
The man will get 25 "Frowns" and 9 "Likes", while the woman will get 191 "Likes" and only 17 "Frowns".
In practice, at the end of each year the federal Treasury would make a subsidy payment to the pool equal to the difference between the revenue that would have been earned from sale of NFIP risk-based premiums and the premium charged for existing properties..
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FEMA moved to implement the NFIP without a private risk-sharing partner. Instead, it engaged private “write your own” (WYO) companies to act as NFIP policy servicing agents. The WYO program allowed insurance companies to sell and manage flood insurance policies in their own names, which encouraged sales. The companies also would process claims but would not bear any risk or set rates.
OmCheeto said:I thought this was interesting: “...For example, a house built in 1969 that has had sixteen claims under the National Flood Insurance Program totaling $1.3 million, was purchased at a total cost of $129,000, resulting in estimated avoided damages in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.”
I'm also curious how common this is in the rest of the country.
I found it mostly entertaining, as it reminded me of that old saying; "If a man says something in the forest, and there's no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?"256bits said:social experiment you say...
I wonder what the Likes/Frowns would be for a "How do I change a flat tire on my car?"
Betcha a Like/Frown the results would be similar.
sliding off the Hurricane Harvey discussion, but the social experiment just tweaked my mind that way.
Thanks! Welfare for industries has always raised one of my eyebrows.jim hardy said:History of NFIP here
https://www.nap.edu/read/21709/chapter/4
basically it's welfare for insurance industry
BillTre said:Read this Science news article this morning, which was republished from ProPublica, which dealt with this subject.
There are many economic and other forces opposed to this, but there is this case:
"New York City has been pursuing targeted purchases and acquisitions in some of the city’s most flood-prone spots, building on similar buyouts undertaken by the state. The purchases include the entire community of Oakwood Beach, a Staten Island coastal neighborhood submerged by Hurricane Sandy’s surge in October, 2012."
And headed straight for the warmer waters of the gulf.Greg Bernhardt said:Irma now Cat 5