What happens on un-ionized electrons after ionization?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of ionization and the changes that occur in the electronic structure of an atom. The Hamiltonian remains the same, but the mean field approximation changes and the remaining electrons transition to new states with higher energy levels. This transition is very fast, taking place in the attosecond time domain, and can be observed through spectroscopy. There is a discrepancy between the energy levels of the old and new states, but this is due to the rearrangement of charges and does not violate energy conservation.
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Hello.

I'm now working in the spectroscopy and I'm wondering in one instantaneous moment of ionization.

Let's have an atom with multiple bound electrons.

The external energy (like in form of photon) is introduced on the atom such that outer bound electron is ionized and the question emerges.

What happens on un-ionized bound electrons?

One electron is now missing and the Hamiltonian of the system have to be modified such that new bound states according to new Hamiltonian should be established.

Just before ionization, all electrons were occupying the old bound state which were determined by the old Hamiltonian, the Hamiltonian before ionization.

Does that mean there is instantaneous transition from old states to new states for the remaining electrons?

It doesn't make sense the energy levels of new states are higher than old states. It is also impossible that new states are identical to the old states since the new Hamiltonian differs from old one.

The only way for bound electrons to go is to transition to the new states which energy levels are lower than one ones and there must be additional energy release from this transition.

Am I right? If that is true, we can capture the moment of the ionization by observing spectrum coming from such a instantaneous transition just after ionization.
 
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1. The Hamiltonian does not change. It depends only on the external potential (nuclear attraction), and the electron interactions [ one-particle (kinetic energy) and two-particle (coulomb repulsion)]. What changes is a *mean field* one-particle approximation to the Hamiltonian, e.g., the Fock operator. However, this is an approximation implying the validity of the mean-field picture. Orbital energies (the eigenvalues of such a mean-field Hamiltonian) are not real!

2. Electrons do not have individual levels. What happens is that you go from the initial N-electron wave function, which is an eigenstate of the interacting Hamiltonian, to an (N-1)-electron wave function, which is also an eigenfunction of the same interacting Hamiltonian. This transition involves all electrons; the (N-1) electron eigenstate is not simply the N-electron eigenstate with one electron removed. The remaining (N-1) electrons also undergo a change in electronic structure to relax to the absence of the previous electron.

If you now create a 1-particle mean-field approximation of the Hamiltonian using the mean-field of the N-1 electron wave function, you will see that this mean field has changed, and with it its associated "orbital energies". However, this is a consequence of the change in the wave function, not its cause.
 
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Answer looks complocated to understand. Thus..the states of the N-1 bound electrons are different from N electron case right?
 
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Unionized electrons? Not many of those left. A lot of employers in the U.S. are outsourcing their electron needs to right-to-work states.
 
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You can think classically: you had an electrically neutral system consisting of a positive nucleus with orbiting electrons. The ionization event occurs when you have cast off a charged particle.

The remaining, movable charges will be drawn in closer because of the net charge imbalance. These correspond to higher energy states.

This process is very fast, taking place in the attosecond time domain: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v449/n7165/abs/nature06229.html

The measurements indicate that the rearrangement is very fast, but measurable: 100 attoseconds.

Note: 1 attosecond = 0.001 femtoseconds = 10^-18 seconds.
 
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Okay. It looks definitely true that the remaining electrons should go to occupy new bound states according to new Hamiltonian after ionization but..to occupy new states which energy level is higher than old? It is possible? It looks the violation of the energy! How it is possible?
 

Related to What happens on un-ionized electrons after ionization?

1. What is ionization?

Ionization is a process in which an atom or molecule gains or loses one or more electrons, resulting in an electrically charged particle called an ion.

2. How do un-ionized electrons behave after ionization?

After ionization, un-ionized electrons can either remain in the atom or molecule, or they can be ejected as free electrons. The behavior of un-ionized electrons depends on various factors such as the energy of the ionizing particle and the electronic structure of the atom or molecule.

3. What happens to the energy of un-ionized electrons after ionization?

The energy of un-ionized electrons can either increase or decrease after ionization, depending on the energy of the ionizing particle. If the ionizing particle has enough energy, it can transfer some of its energy to the un-ionized electrons, causing them to become excited. On the other hand, if the ionizing particle has lower energy, the un-ionized electrons may lose some of their energy and become stable.

4. Can un-ionized electrons be re-ionized after ionization?

Yes, un-ionized electrons can be re-ionized after ionization. This can happen if the atom or molecule is exposed to another ionizing particle with enough energy to remove an additional electron.

5. What are the applications of studying un-ionized electrons after ionization?

Studying un-ionized electrons after ionization is crucial in understanding many physical and chemical processes. It has applications in fields such as nuclear physics, astrophysics, and chemistry, and is essential in developing technologies such as particle accelerators and radiation therapy for cancer treatment.

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