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I would like details on CNO Cycle Carbon Fusion about the exact energy release of an entire cycle through the reaction and other details you would think would be important about the CNO cycle.
Not exactly, I was wanting to try and construct a CNO cycle reactor, what do you think would be some important stuff to know?phyzguy said:The Wikipedia page gives the energy release, as well as many other details. Do you have specific questions?
You must be kidding!VictorMedvil said:No, a Physical Reactor... I realize that the temperatures required are like 20 million to 600 million kelvin(Proof of Temperature) however it is still a project. Just give me some other important details man...
Whatever man, this is why no meaningful discussion can happen on the physics forums, maybe not with current superconductors or plasma heating techniques is this possible however it will be possible within 5 to 20 years, I would assume from the current advancement of human technology in fusion. However that is not the point of this thread, the point of this thread was to gain meaningful information about the CNO cycle.mathman said:You must be kidding!
Thank you, see that is the type of information I made this thread for.phyzguy said:Try calculating the bremsstrahlung losses from your plasma and compare that to the energy generated by the CNO cycle. I think you will find that it is a net loss. Unless your reactor is large enough that the bremmstrahlung radiation cannot escape (like in a star), your reactor will have net loss of energy. Don't take my word for it, do the calculation.
Yes possibly I won't deny that fusion technology has taken longer than expected by people, however what doesn't, innovation and invention is a thing that takes time.mathman said:Possible within 5 to 20 years? Extremely unlikely! Current fusion technology (tokomak or laser) has been promising success for 30 years, since around 1960. They seem to be no nearer.
So, what you are telling me is I would have to heat the water or whatever coolant that produces energy when tossed through a generator with bremsstrahlung and other radiations emitted from the plasma, thank you for this insight.phyzguy said:Try calculating the bremsstrahlung losses from your plasma and compare that to the energy generated by the CNO cycle. I think you will find that it is a net loss. Unless your reactor is large enough that the bremmstrahlung radiation cannot escape (like in a star), your reactor will have net loss of energy. Don't take my word for it, do the calculation.
The CNO cycle, also known as the carbon-nitrogen-oxygen cycle, is a nuclear fusion process that occurs in the cores of stars, including our Sun. It involves the fusion of hydrogen nuclei to form helium, with carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen acting as catalysts for the reaction.
The CNO cycle releases energy through the conversion of mass into energy, according to Einstein's famous equation E=mc^2. This occurs as the nuclei of hydrogen atoms combine to form helium, releasing energy in the form of gamma rays.
Carbon acts as a catalyst in the CNO cycle, meaning it facilitates the fusion reaction without being consumed itself. It is the most abundant element involved in the cycle and plays a crucial role in the energy production of stars.
The energy release of the CNO cycle is lower compared to other fusion processes, such as the proton-proton chain. However, it is the dominant energy production mechanism in stars with higher mass and temperature, such as red giants and supergiants.
No, the CNO cycle requires high temperatures and densities to occur, so it only takes place in stars with a mass greater than about 1.3 times the mass of our Sun. Smaller stars, such as red dwarfs, do not have the necessary conditions for the CNO cycle.