Why are spinors not observables?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the relationship between causality and the spin-statistic theorem in quantum field theory. It is explained that for scalars, the commutation relation outside the light-cone is equal to zero, which classifies them as bosons. However, for spinors, the commutation relation does not hold, but it is not necessary as spinors are not observables. It is clarified that only self-adjoint operators are observables, which is why the commutation relation must be between combinations of observables that are self-adjoint in order to preserve causality. The question is raised about why the specific commutation relation, ##[\bar{\psi}(x)\psi(x),\bar{\psi}(
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Silviu
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Hello! I am reading some QFT and it is a part about how causality implies spin-statistic theorem. In general, one needs 2 observables to commute outside the light-cone. For scalars, we have $$[\phi(x),\phi(y)]=0$$ outside the light-cone, and by using the operator form of the field you get that indeed scalars are bosons. However for spinors, we have that they don't commute, but the things that needs to commute in order to preserve causality is $$[\bar{\psi}(x)\psi(x),\bar{\psi}(y)\psi(y)]=0$$ and the author says that the spinors are not observables, hence why it is fine if they don't commute. I am not sure I understand why they are not observables. And why is the scalar field an observables? Is it because $$\phi(x)|0>=|x>$$? Also, why is $$[\bar{\psi}(x)\psi(x),\bar{\psi}(y)\psi(y)]=0$$ enough to impose causality? Thank you!
 
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All observables are hermitian operators. Scalar field for uncharged particles is a hermitian operator. Spinor field is not a hermitian operator. That's why!
 
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Only self-adjoint operators are observables, So the commutation relation, which ensures that spacelike observables commute has to be between combinations of observables that are self-adjoint.
 
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Silviu said:
Also, why is $$[\bar{\psi}(x)\psi(x),\bar{\psi}(y)\psi(y)]=0$$ enough to impose causality?
I wouldn't say that it's enough. One would also need to check similar commutators with other physically relevant bilinear combinations, such as ##\bar{\psi}(x)\gamma^{\mu}\psi(x)##. But once you checked it for ##\bar{\psi}(x)\psi(x)##, the explicit check for the other combinations should be easy.
 

1. Why are spinors not considered observables in quantum mechanics?

Spinors are not considered observables in quantum mechanics because they do not have a corresponding physical quantity that can be measured. Observables in quantum mechanics are represented by Hermitian operators, which have real eigenvalues that can be measured. However, spinors do not have real eigenvalues, making them non-observable quantities.

2. Can spinors be measured in any way?

No, spinors cannot be directly measured. This is because they represent the intrinsic angular momentum of a particle and do not have a corresponding physical quantity that can be observed. However, their effects can be detected indirectly through other observables such as the magnetic moment of a particle.

3. What is the role of spinors in quantum mechanics if they are not observables?

Spinors play a crucial role in quantum mechanics as they describe the intrinsic angular momentum of particles, known as spin. They are also important in understanding the behavior of fermions, which have half-integer spin values. In addition, spinors are used in the formulation of quantum field theory, which is a key framework for describing the dynamics of particles in quantum mechanics.

4. Why do spinors have complex components?

Spinors have complex components because they are mathematical objects that describe the spin of particles. In order to fully describe the spin of a particle, both its magnitude and direction must be taken into account. This requires both real and imaginary numbers, leading to the complex nature of spinors.

5. Are there any physical implications of spinors not being observables?

Yes, there are physical implications of spinors not being observables. Since they cannot be directly measured, spinors cannot be used to predict the outcome of experiments. However, their effects can still be observed indirectly through other observables. Additionally, the non-observability of spinors highlights the limitations of our current understanding of quantum mechanics and the need for further research and development in this field.

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