The universe contains only one electron?

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The discussion centers around the provocative idea that there may only be one electron in the universe, exploring concepts related to time, particle interactions, and interpretations of quantum mechanics. Participants reference theoretical frameworks, including those proposed by Richard Feynman, and engage in a mix of speculative reasoning and humorous commentary.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that an electron interacting with a gamma ray moves backwards in time, leading to the conclusion that there may only be one electron in the universe.
  • Another participant humorously agrees with the notion of a single electron, attributing wisdom and experience to it, but does not provide a technical basis for this claim.
  • A participant references Richard Feynman's ideas and suggests reading John Gribbin's book for more context on these theories.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the one-electron model, proposing instead that there are multiple electrons, with one noting that CP violation explains the matter-antimatter asymmetry in the universe.
  • Questions arise regarding the implications of the one-electron theory on stellar processes, particularly concerning the annihilation of electrons and positrons, and the nature of antimatter.
  • Concerns are raised about the mechanics of how a gamma ray could cause an electron to move backwards in time, indicating a need for further clarification on this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the one-electron hypothesis. While some find the idea intriguing, others challenge it by asserting the existence of multiple electrons and questioning the implications of the proposed model.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative interpretations of quantum mechanics and time travel, with participants acknowledging the complexity and ambiguity of these concepts. There are unresolved questions about the nature of antimatter and the mechanics of particle interactions.

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I have asked this question before and I was unclear about the answer that I recieved. The way that it was explained before is that when an electron comes incontact with a gamma ray it goes backwards in time. The moving backwards in time of the electron is what we call the positron. Thus, this allows the electron to be in more than one place at the same time, and leading to the untimate conclusion that there may only be one electron in the universe. Does anyone have anything that they could add to this? Or do they have another solution. Also, do you know of any books or sites that would explain this in more detail.
 
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Old Man Electron

OF COURSE there's only one electron in the universe! I mean, it's just common sense. But let me tell you, by now it's got to be one wise old electron! If I were you, I wouldn't go trying to put something over on it -- that electron has seen it all, and it's got very little patience for nonsense.

(Actually, I heard a couple of years ago that the electron was actually thinking of retiring, and of course it had to be talked out of it -- cause no electron, no universe. Hopefully now they've got an electron-in-training to take over when the time comes -- probably some young lepton with big dreams and a lot of energy. Let's hope so. It'll sure need it for that job!)
 
thanks for your 2 cents...or should i say 1. :D
 
I believe that Richard Fynman played with this type theory. I read a discripton of his ideas in one John Gribbin's books In search of Schrodingers Cat Give it a read.
 
alright, thanks
 
Feynman used the "positron is an electron that goes back in time" idea quite a bit. I'm not a fan of that interpretation. He has a book called QED that would talk some about it, but I don't recall him putting forth a one electron model.

I would propose that there are more than one electron in the universe. The amount of matter in the universe is usually explained as being caused by CP violation (matter and antimatter don't have exactly the same properties) at the time of the big bang.
 
asdfjkl said:
Feynman used the "positron is an electron that goes back in time" idea quite a bit. I'm not a fan of that interpretation. He has a book called QED that would talk some about it, but I don't recall him putting forth a one electron model.

I would propose that there are more than one electron in the universe. The amount of matter in the universe is usually explained as being caused by CP violation (matter and antimatter don't have exactly the same properties) at the time of the big bang.
This is the concept that I was thinking of. Not one electron but that a positron is an electron moving backwards in time.
 
o really? Thats interesting, I will have to read the book. thx
 
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Im confused about a couple of things. For one, how stars would than work. According to the Proton-Proton chain a star has electrons and positrons routinely annihilating each other producing gamma rays. However, if positrons are electrons moving back in time than would that mean that electrons that are being annihilated are actually from the future? But than where did the positrons originally come from? Also, if electrons are positrons moving back in time than would that mean antimatter is just matter moving back in time? And also is there an explanation for how a gamma ray can turn an electron back in time?
 

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