Understanding Absorption and Transmission in Spectroscopy

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The discussion revolves around confusion regarding the relationship between absorption and transmission in spectroscopy, particularly the equation A = LOG(1/T). Participants clarify that the spectrometer readings for absorption and transmission are based on logarithmic calculations, and reflection also plays a role in the overall light interactions. They emphasize that the equation can yield values that seem counterintuitive, especially when transmission is low, leading to potential misunderstandings about absorption exceeding 100%. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the underlying principles and equations used in spectroscopic measurements. Ultimately, the original poster confirms their calculations are correct, leading to a better grasp of the concepts involved.
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I'm a little confused, we have tested chemical concentrations based on how much light it can absorb. What i don't understand is why something can have a reading of 60% transmission yet also have an absorption of 22.2% via the equation A = LOG(1/T), T being tranmission, A being absorption. Seems like it should be a 40% absorption. Then i realized i might not quite understand what it means when a spectrometer is reading "Absorption and Transmission". Can someone explain?
 
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The rest goes to scattering processes I guess. One can split the mass-energy absorption factor to elastic and inelastic scattering and photoabsorption.
 
You may have got something wrong with your equation. Maybe you should consult the manual again.
 
Ich said:
You may have got something wrong with your equation. Maybe you should consult the manual again.

No that's how the math works. The meter has a transmission and an absorption scale on the same dial going opposite ways but the Absorption is logarithmic.
 
Reflection accounts for some of the difference...

R + T + A = 1 for all processes.
 
Hey, when T<0.1 -> A>1. That surely does NOT work. You must have forgot something crucial.
 
Ich is right, not only does that allow for absorption to be more than 100%, but A+T > 100% whenever the transmission is less than 13.7%.
 
Ich said:
You may have got something wrong with your equation. Maybe you should consult the manual again.

This is the key to the argument... start consulting.
 
It was a lab for our chem course, we didn't have manuals to consult, we were just told "here, use this equation" and did as we were told haha.
 
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Pengwuino said:
It was a lab for our chem course, we didn't have manuals to consult, we were just told "here, use this equation" and did as we were told haha.

Ich is right that reflection does come into play, but the percent of light absorbed, transmitted, and reflected depends on what compound you are talking about. Are you sure it wasn't a sort of "introductory thought experiment" to get to used to using equations to model light A&R&T?
 
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It was probably the only time we used the spectrometer this semester haha. It was one of those "hey look, you can determine concentration via light absorption, how bout that" experiments.
 
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Got it now - You´re measuring http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorbance" , not absorption.
 
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It's less complicated than that...

Your reading of 22.2 is about right. If transmission = T is 60%, or 0.60, then per your formula absorption = A is log(1/T). Well, 1/.60 is 1.66, and the log of that is .2218, or about 22.2%. So your work stands.
 
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