Need help using Ion Electron Method in acidic conditions.

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The discussion revolves around balancing the redox reaction between permanganate ions (MnO4-) and oxalate ions (C2O42-) under acidic conditions. The initial steps involved separating the half-reactions for MnO4- to Mn2+ and C2O42- to CO2, followed by balancing oxygen with water and hydrogen with protons (H+). The user calculated the electrons for each half-reaction, arriving at -3e for the permanganate reduction and -2e for the oxalate oxidation. However, when combining the half-reactions, there was confusion regarding the total number of H+ and H2O molecules, leading to an incorrect final equation. The suggestion was made to balance the carbon atoms first and to introduce H2O only in subsequent steps, indicating a need for a clearer approach to balancing the overall reaction.
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Using the Ion Electron Method (acidic conditions) I need to solve:

MnO4- + C2O42- -> Mn2+ + CO2

So I tried doing:

MnO4- -> Mn2+

And:

C2O42- -> CO2 + 2H2O

Then I balanced the oxygen atoms with H2O

MnO4- -> Mn2+ + 4H2O

And:

C2O42- -> CO2 + 2H2O

Then I added the hydrogen atoms:

MnO4- + 8H+ -> Mn2+ + 4H2O

And:

C2O42- + 4H+ -> CO2 + 2H2O

Then I tried balancing the electrons and I got -3e for the first equation and -2e for the second. Then I tried combining the two:

2MnO4- + 16H+ +
3C2O42- + 12H+ -> 2Mn2+ + 8H2O + 3CO2 + 6H2O

Cancel out the H+ and H2O:

2MnO4- + 28H+ +
3C2O42- -> 2Mn2+ + 14H2O + 3CO2

I don't know if there is something else I should do (which I suspect there is but I can't tell), and I think I am doing something wrong because my answer didn't turn out right. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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thyrgle said:
C2O42- -> CO2 + 2H2O

You should balance carbon first. H2O - if needed - should appear in the next step.
 
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