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I saw this post at stackexchange:
I ran across this post when trying to solve a homework problem. But I have no idea how he got that solution for that. When I use the Euler-Lagrange, I get this diff eq below.
Here is the simplest form I have managed to get it in:
\frac{\alpha}{2\pi}=\frac{\eta \quad \dot{\eta}^2}{\sqrt{1+\dot{\eta}^2}}-\sqrt{1+\dot{\eta}^2}
Where \alpha is a constant. For the simplification, \eta = (y-y_0) & λ \equiv -2\pi y_0 is used from the quote above.
I don't know where to even begin to solve this. Any help would be good.
Thanks.
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Some details that I thought I should add.
Since h=f+\lambda g≠h(x), I used the special case of the E-L equation:
\dot{y}\frac{\partial h}{\partial \dot{y}}-h=const.
But after the substituions to trim it up the special E-L turns into this:
\dot{\eta}\frac{\partial h}{\partial \dot{\eta}}-h=const.=\alpha
Where h now is: h=2\pi\eta\sqrt{1+\dot{\eta}^2}
The fact that curve length is fixed amounts to a functional constraint. So we need to use both the Euler-Lagrange equation and Lagrange multipliers. The functional to minimise is \int^a_{-a}(2\pi y-\lambda)\sqrt{1+y'^2}dx, where λ is a Lagrange multiplier. For this functional, the first integral of the Euler-Lagrange equation gives a different ODE from what I got above, which has the solution y(x)=k(\cosh\frac{x}{k}-\cosh\frac{a}{k}) for some k depending on l, as required.
I ran across this post when trying to solve a homework problem. But I have no idea how he got that solution for that. When I use the Euler-Lagrange, I get this diff eq below.
Here is the simplest form I have managed to get it in:
\frac{\alpha}{2\pi}=\frac{\eta \quad \dot{\eta}^2}{\sqrt{1+\dot{\eta}^2}}-\sqrt{1+\dot{\eta}^2}
Where \alpha is a constant. For the simplification, \eta = (y-y_0) & λ \equiv -2\pi y_0 is used from the quote above.
I don't know where to even begin to solve this. Any help would be good.
Thanks.
-edit
Some details that I thought I should add.
Since h=f+\lambda g≠h(x), I used the special case of the E-L equation:
\dot{y}\frac{\partial h}{\partial \dot{y}}-h=const.
But after the substituions to trim it up the special E-L turns into this:
\dot{\eta}\frac{\partial h}{\partial \dot{\eta}}-h=const.=\alpha
Where h now is: h=2\pi\eta\sqrt{1+\dot{\eta}^2}
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