Is there a benefit to looking like a body builder?

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The discussion revolves around perceptions of bodybuilding, particularly the extremes of female and male bodybuilders, and the implications of steroid use. Participants express mixed feelings about the aesthetics of bodybuilders, with some finding extreme muscle mass unattractive or "freakish," while others appreciate the dedication and hard work involved. The conversation touches on the potential psychological issues related to bodybuilding, such as muscular dysmorphia, likening it to anorexia in terms of body image dissatisfaction. There are debates about the ethics of steroid use, with some arguing that it undermines the integrity of the sport, while others acknowledge the hard work behind achieving such physiques, regardless of drug use. The thread also highlights a generational shift in bodybuilding standards, contrasting past champions with current competitors, who often appear excessively large and less proportionate. Overall, the dialogue reflects a complex mix of admiration, criticism, and concern regarding the culture of bodybuilding and its physical and psychological impacts.
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Guess whether male or Female!

So what does your consciousness tells you??
 

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Dude. Cross-dressing.

- Warren
 
Female...a scary one.
 
Ewwwww, no matter what it is.
 
A female bodybuilder that puts hours and hours of hard work into the gym.
 
That's a guy.
 
Definitely a girl.

I personally don't mind watching bodybuilders. It's pretty cool.

I would date one or be one for that matter.
 
That's a woman juicing on testosterone and steroids. Personally, I find it disgusting on a woman. Although, I saw one show on tv and after competition they loose all their mass and become quite thin again. It's odd.

As for men, I think it looks good up to a certain point.
 
Here's the same woman 6 months after the competition.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6650/implantsbp4.jpg
 
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So you think it is a woman, Evo? I do too: painted nails, long hair, and that looks like a dress. This is not to say a man cannot have all of those, but I cannot imagine why a bodybuilder would want to do so.

Edit: I also agree with cyrusabdollahi, even men do not look all that attractive after too much working out.
 
  • #11
Look shamu is going back into the ocean where she belongs...uhhhh disgusting...

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EWwww

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  • #12
theCandyman said:
Edit: I also agree with cyrusabdollahi, even men do not look all that attractive after too much working out.

Just so you know and everyone else, the goal isn't to be attractive.

I think it's pretty cool, but I guess you wouldn't understand. I find that people who workout know what I mean.
 
  • #13
JasonRox said:
Just so you know and everyone else, the goal isn't to be attractive.
They've succeeded. :bugeye:

I'm sorry, but it's freakish, the human body isn't meant to be tortured into a mishapen figure like that.
 
  • #14
JasonRox said:
Just so you know and everyone else, the goal isn't to be attractive.
They've succeeded. :bugeye:

I'm sorry, but it's freakish, the human body isn't meant to be tortured into a mishapen figure like that.
 
  • #15
Evo said:
They've succeeded. :bugeye:

I'm sorry, but it's freakish, the human body isn't meant to be tortured into a mishapen figure like that.

Yeah, it's not meant to be like that.

But, we have to thank them though. Because of bodybuilders, doctors and researchers have learned lots about the human body.

EDIT: Jay Cutler
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Speaking of freakishly large body parts.

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I'm going with an 'educated guess' and say that the original photo is a man. I've seen a lot of bodybuilders of both sexes, and the distribution of muscle mass on that subject appears to be male. I might be wrong, particularly if steroids are involved, but that's my first thought.

edit: I just saw your last post, Evo. Aren't the airbags supposed to be inside the car?
 
  • #18
So till now...3 say it is male...5 say it is Female and there is Evo to whom it doesn't matter!

So should i Paste the pic of front portion of bodybuilder!
 
  • #19
Evo said:
Here's the same woman 6 months after the competition.

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It seems that you are most certain that person is female...:rolleyes:
because i believe if that would have been a guy you wouldn't have posted this pic...
 
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  • #20
heman said:
So what does your consciousness tells you??
It doesn't. I don't want to know. :biggrin:
 
  • #21
Evo said:
Here's the same woman 6 months after the competition.
Uggg. The mummy look. :biggrin: She's well preserved.

Evo said:
Speaking of freakishly large body parts.
What's holding her down? She looks like she'd float away. That's got to be in California.

No more - please!
 
  • #22
Evo said:
Speaking of freakishly large body parts.

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Now THAT'S a guy.
 
  • #23
The one in the original post looks like a woman, though almost surely not without chemical enhancement. The nails, the dress, the hair, the hips all suggest womant to me. I don't find this extreme at all attractive. I wouldn't think this is at all cool if drugs are involved (though do acknowledge the work and dedication still involved). If she managed that 'clean' I'd be incredibly impressed though.

Unfortunately the number of women I've met who think if they go to the gym they will end up looking like that is frighteningly high. They don't seem to realize the excessive amount of training this will take, and likely the oodles of drugs. Even then, probably only a small percent would have such extremes possible.
 
  • #24
JasonRox said:
Yeah, it's not meant to be like that.

But, we have to thank them though. Because of bodybuilders, doctors and researchers have learned lots about the human body.

EDIT: Jay Cutler
[MEDIA=youtube]CDbybRzS8ps[/MEDIA]&mode=related&search=[/URL][/QUOTE]


UHhhhhh.. what is this steroid using idiot you linked? I think his arms are too big, he probably needs to get someone to reach around and wipe is butt when he goes number 2...:rolleyes:

He's gota major ego problem.
 
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Those are some damn ugly women.

They have more makeup on than a clown!
 
  • #27
berkeman said:
EDIT -- Well, okay, there are a couple more extreme examples down that page, but the majority are hot.

The 'fitness' ones are definitely in the more attractive pile. I could do without the excessive tans though.

cyrusabdollahi said:
He's gota major ego problem.

How did you come to this conclusion?
 
  • #28
cyrusabdollahi said:
UHhhhhh.. what is this steroid using idiot you linked? I think his arms are too big, he probably needs to get someone to reach around and whipe is butt when he goes number 2...:rolleyes:

He's gota major ego problem.

Ego problem? Um... how do you determine that from a video?

He's a good guy by the way, from what I know, but then again you know less. I've never seen him as an ego freak.
 
  • #29
shmoe said:
The 'fitness' ones are definitely in the more attractive pile. I could do without the excessive tans though.

I hate the tans.

Anyways, I don't find them attractive either. The first couple definitely seem natural though. For the girls out there, you will never get this big even though it's natural. Too much work involved.

The introducing picture is definitely a girl. I've seen my share of female bodybuilders and males, and that is definitely a girl.
 
  • #30
JasonRox said:
Ego problem? Um... how do you determine that from a video?

He's a good guy by the way, from what I know, but then again you know less. I've never seen him as an ego freak.

Someone who takes steroids and feels the need to look circusly big has issues. I bet he spends his free time shaving his butt to wear those undies. He looks like a freak.

He can have fun once he gets a heart attack followed by a stroke form the roids.
 
  • #31
cyrusabdollahi said:
Someone who takes steroids and feels the need to look circusly big has issues.

Why? You know it's his livelyhood right? He is a professional bodybuilder.

Now I don't personally think it looks good, nor do I agree with the amount of drugs these guys probably have to take, but I think assuming he has some kind of ego problem is unfounded. Do you have something substantial to back this claim up with? Some interviews or something? I can't say I'm really familiar with him, so maybe he does have issues, I couldn't say one way or the other.
 
  • #32
:smile: Professional meathead counts as a livelyhood? He should get a real job instead of waxing his butt and wearing speedos. He probably stuffs them anyways because the roids shrunk his balls to the size of a pea.

Its quite simple actually, no one is that big. PERIOD. The only way you get to be as big as him is with taking lots and LOTS of drugs. I work out at the gym. I've seen all too many guys like him taking drugs and suddenly getting big. Sure, there nice guys, but at the same time they have no sense and need to be big to feel good about themselves.

Find a picture of a guy who bodybuilds all natural. He will be much smaller, and look much better. He will be proportional. These guys are idiots. I hope they can still walk after they have their stroke...:rolleyes:
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
:smile: Professional meathead counts as a livelyhood? He should get a real job instead of waxing his butt and wearing speedos. He probably stuffs them anyways because the roids shrunk his balls to the size of a pea.

Its quite simple actually, no one is that big. PERIOD. The only way you get to be as big as him is with taking lots and LOTS of drugs. I work out at the gym. I've seen all too many guys like him taking drugs and suddenly getting big. Sure, there nice guys, but at the same time they have no sense and need to be big to feel good about themselves.

Find a picture of a guy who bodybuilds all natural. He will be much smaller, and look much better. He will be proportional. These guys are idiots. I hope they can still walk after they have their stroke.

After this thread cyrus, I think you have more personal problems than Jay Cutler.

You'd never hear this guy talking about nerds with no lives on PF. Why? Because he's knows better than that.

Note: Obviously he took drugs, but he's not only taking drugs. Not anyone can take steroids and look like that. It takes a hell of a lot of hard work with good genetics too.
 
  • #34
That's great, he's still a steroid using freak who needs help. :wink:

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Speaks for itself. Taking drugs sure is hard work Jason. You know, when it gives you unrealistic strength and stamina...woof...

I don't have personal problems, I've seen too many guys like this at the gym with my own eyes. They are pathetic people.

I hope you doint juice when you workout dude...
 
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I figured someone as well respected as you on these boards wouldn't have such an ignorant opinion. Taking steroids doesn't put the muscle on for you-- as you still have to bust your ass in the gym. Sure, they can accelerate gains etc, but most of those guys were already huge before they started using and had been working out for a very long time.

Have you ever even been to a bodybuilding show? Competed? Do you know what its like to diet for 12-16 weeks all the way down to less than 5% bodyfat? They have more heart than 90% of the people out there. Also, besides a few exceptions, most of them are great people and more than willing to help out and give advice at shows.

cyrusabdollahi said:
That's great, he's still a steroid using freak who needs help. :wink:

jay-cutler_small.jpg


Speaks for itself. Taking drugs sure is hard work Jason. You know, when it gives you unrealistic strength and stamina...woof...

I don't have personal problems, I've seen too many guys like this at the gym with my own eyes. They are pathetic people.

I hope you doint juice when you workout dude...
 
  • #36
Man, I have no respect for those steroid using bodybuilders. Sorry, I just dont.

Thats like me praising a scientist that cheated to get his award. Ant going to happen.

I already said that they are nice people. But that does not make it any better!
 
  • #37
cyrusabdollahi said:
Man, I have no respect for those steroid using bodybuilders. Sorry, I just dont.

Thats like me praising a scientist that cheated to get his award. Ant going to happen.

I already said that they are nice people. But that does not make it any better!

No, I do not take steroids and I never intend too.

It's not cheating because he's at a no testing level of bodybuilding. There are natural bodybuilding competitions, which he has won in the past.

You can't compare this to a scientist either. It makes no sense because they are completely different. The analogy doesn't even relate.

Anyways, your critical attitudes towards bigger guys at the gym clearly displays that you have personal issues to deal with. It's totally obvious in this thread.
 
  • #38
JasonRox said:
No, I do not take steroids and I never intend too.

Well, three cheers for that. I am glad you won't stoop to that level. I've seen one to many a people do it. :frown:

It's not cheating because he's at a no testing level of bodybuilding. There are natural bodybuilding competitions, which he has won in the past.

Like I said, good for all natural. But now he's a junky using freakezoid. Just look at him man!

You can't compare this to a scientist either. It makes no sense because they are completely different. The analogy doesn't even relate.

The point is, he has gone way beyond what a normal body should hold on its frame. He looks like a retarded meathead.

Anyways, your critical attitudes towards bigger guys at the gym clearly displays that you have personal issues to deal with. It's totally obvious in this thread.

I said they are nice people, but they are dumbasses for taking roids to get as big as they are.

Your body just isint made to pump that much blood throughout it. He will get a heart attack, its just a matter of how far in the future.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Your body just isint made to pump that much blood throughout your body. He will get a heart attack, its just a matter of how far in the future.

Not the best choice, but neither is playing hockey for a living.

Both professions finish their careers with their own share of physical problems. Meanwhile both could have gone to school and get a better job, but making less money.

Personally, I'd rather make less money.

Also, it isn't about money either. It's usually for the love of it.
 
  • #40
Dude, I love to workout and exercise too. But this guy is a clown!

When you bodybuild naturally and you become big that's great.

But when you feel like you need to get this freakishly big, you have problems. He might have Muscle Dysmorphia. Who in their right mind would want to become a freak of nature like that?
 
  • #41
cyrusabdollahi said:
But when you feel like you need to get this freakishly big, you have problems. He might have Muscle Dysmorphia. Who in their right mind would want to become a freak of nature like that?

I have no idea.

But who in there right mind would study science day in and day out? That's the same question he can ask us.

We have our issues, but I don't think he suffers anything psychologically regarding his size. Arnold Schwarznegger (spelling?) seems pretty good to me. You never hear about him obessing about his size and he was quite large in the past. So, if he had Muscle Dysmorphia, wouldn't he still display that disorder?
 
  • #42
JasonRox said:
I have no idea.

But who in there right mind would study science day in and day out? That's the same question he can ask us.

Well, we are trying to advance society by making meaningful contributions. This guy is a mere freakshow for people to spectate and point at.

Arnold Schwarznegger (spelling?) seems pretty good to me. You never hear about him obessing about his size and he was quite large in the past. So, if he had Muscle Dysmorphia, wouldn't he still display that disorder?

Dude, have you see arnold next to these guys? He's TINY! Arnold was no where near as big as these freaks are today!
 
  • #43
cyrusabdollahi said:
He might have Muscle Dysmorphia.

He also might not have Muscle Dysmorphia.

cyrusabdollahi said:
Who in their right mind would want to become a freak of nature like that?

Dunno, who in their right mind would want to pierce their nipples or nose? One persons freakish might be anothers idea of awesome. It doesn't mean that there's something mentally wrong with the person you (or even the majority of people) consider "freakish". He may even consider himself freakish, but enjoys entertaining his fans and is willing to make this sacrifice.

cyrusabdollahi said:
Well, we are trying to advance society by making meaningful contributions. This guy is a mere freakshow for people to spectate and point at.

Is entertainment not considered a meaningful contribution?
 
  • #44
cyrusabdollahi said:
Dude, have you see arnold next to these guys? He's TINY! Arnold was no where near as big as these freaks are today!

Just because they are bigger doesn't mean they are at a higher risk of Muscle Dysmorphia. The was to show that there are lots of people getting big without that disorder.

It's almost as if you'd go to the gym running around yelling at girls, who are thin and working out, about how they may be suffering from mental disorders like anorexia because they want to be thin.
 
  • #45
JasonRox said:
Both professions finish their careers with their own share of physical problems. Meanwhile both could have gone to school and get a better job, but making less money.

In the case of a pro hockey player, probably much, much less money :-p. An NHLer will probably make more in their first 5-10 years then they would over an entire career of something else they are capable of. This is more a reflection on their high wages then their ability to do other jobs (many are very intelligent, and very hard working).

But yeah, love of the game. Even with broken bodies, I wonder how many pro hockey players keep playing after retirement, I'd expect most.
 
  • #46
shmoe said:
In the case of a pro hockey player, probably much, much less money :-p. An NHLer will probably make more in their first 5-10 years then they would over an entire career of something else they are capable of. This is more a reflection on their high wages then their ability to do other jobs (many are very intelligent, and very hard working).

But yeah, love of the game. Even with broken bodies, I wonder how many pro hockey players keep playing after retirement, I'd expect most.

They'd play casually, but that's about it. I doubt any of them would play rough after retiring.

A goalie on TSN once said that every NHL goalie retires with atleast one replaced knee cap, meanwhile both of his are artificial. Hockey players take a lot of damage to their bodies with great pain, meanwhile also always being away from family. I don't think I love the game that much to go through it though.
 
  • #47
Look at how much bigger he is than arnold...:bugeye:


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  • #48
cyrusabdollahi said:
Look at how much bigger he is than arnold...:bugeye:
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EWWWWWWWWW

EWWWWWWWWW

EWWWWWWWWW

That is so gross!
 
  • #49
Evo said:
EWWWWWWWWW

EWWWWWWWWW

EWWWWWWWWW

That is so gross!

what the heck. I thought girls/women like big muscles.
 
  • #50
Physics_wiz said:
what the heck. I thought girls/women like big muscles.
EWWWWW NO!

That's not muscle, that's a FREAK.
 

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