The simplest delicious nutritious meals?

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The discussion centers around the nutritional value of a simple meal idea that combines various breads with instant soup mix, which some participants argue is not a healthy choice. Critics highlight that instant soup is often high in salt and artificial ingredients, lacking real nutritional benefits. They emphasize the importance of preparing meals from scratch using fresh vegetables and lean proteins to ensure a balanced diet. Suggestions for healthier alternatives include homemade soups, salads, and meals rich in fruits and vegetables. The conversation also touches on the convenience of quick meals versus the long-term health implications of relying on processed foods. Overall, the consensus leans towards advocating for cooking from fresh ingredients to achieve better health outcomes.
  • #51
tgt,

You've got to be kidding me. Instant soup with bread? Noodles with egg and soy sauce? Those are probably two of the WORST dishes anyone could ever invent!

You need to focus on two things: good, high-quality protein, and good, high-quality fruits and vegetables. You should have fruit or veggies with every meal. You should have protein with virtually every meal. Those the are "quality" macronutrients. Carbs will fill up the rest of your calorie needs.

Consider the following daily meal plan:

Breakfast: a toasted whole-weat bagel topped with peanut butter, a piece of fruit, and a glass of milk.

Mid-morning snack: a handful of mixed nuts and some cucumber or carrots.

Lunch: Healthy reasonably-sized sandwich, without the oil and mayo and other garbage.

Afternoon snack: a protein shake.

Dinner: baked chicken, grilled salmon, or other good-quality protein, served with steamed brocolli or asparagus and brown rice.

THAT is a healthy day's diet. The easiest ways to examine your diet are to look for color, fiber content, and processing. If your diet is high in colorful fruits and vegetables, high in items like nuts and whole grains which provide fiber, and low in processed, packaged, commercialized foods, you're probably eating pretty well.

- Warren
 
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  • #52
lisab said:
I love granola, if it's not too sweet. And with a banana, even better.

I find that the magnitude of the sweetness of cereal is greater then the magnitude of the saltiness of the soup.

What's worse too sugary or too salty
 
  • #53
tgt said:
What do you people think about cereal+milk?

The only complaint is that it takes too much of a toll on the teeth. It's also not very filling.

Depending upon the cereal, it can be quite healthy. I don't understand what makes you think it takes a "toll on the teeth." Are you teeth very unhealthy or something? You can eat something similar like steel-cut oatmeal with brown sugar and raisins if you want something that's less crunchy, but still very tasty.

- Warren
 
  • #54
chroot said:
tgt,

You've got to be kidding me. Instant soup with bread? Noodles with egg and soy sauce? Those are probably two of the WORST dishes anyone could ever invent!

I was looking for the simplest dishes that fills one up without making one obese.
 
  • #55
tgt said:
I find that the magnitude of the sweetness of cereal is greater then the magnitude of the saltiness of the soup.

What's worse too sugary or too salty
Granola is not a very healthy choice, too high in fat and sugar. There are plenty of unsweetened cereals.

If you are serious, take chroot's advice, it's excellent.
 
  • #56
tgt said:
I was looking for the simplest dishes that fills one up without making one obese.

The simplest meals are the ones that involve raw or natural ingredients that you simply put into your mouth and swallow. Fruits, vegetables, nuts, protein shakes, whole-weat bagels, healthy sandwiches, etc. require essentially no preparation.

I can't imagine that anything I put on my list is in any sense "hard to prepare."

- Warren
 
  • #57
tgt said:
Why is canned soup better than instant?

The instant soup I use is at least 97% fat free.
Yeah, not hard to be 97% fat free when there's nothing but salt and artificial flavoring in it, maybe some dried noodles.

The bread is wholemeal with no spreading on them. Can't see how I can gain weight from that unless if I feel unsatisfied with the meal and snack on other fatty foods. Or eat a huge meal outside but that is not going to happen. The only unhealthy aspect seems to be the salt in the soup. What can that lead to?
The unhealthy aspect is it is NOT a balanced diet AT ALL. Read the dang nutrition label on the soup packet and see how little of anything nutritious is in it. This isn't that difficult.
 
  • #58
Also, if you're trying to lose weight, one cannot overemphasize the important of regular exercise. From the sound of it, you eat like a Ukranian prisoner, and you haven't mentioned your exercise habits at all.

- Warren
 
  • #59
Moonbear said:
The unhealthy aspect is it is NOT a balanced diet AT ALL. Read the dang nutrition label on the soup packet and see how little of anything nutritious is in it. This isn't that difficult.

As mentioned, the soup is there to make the meal interesting. Otherwise, it would be 6 slices of plain wholemeal bread, which can take an hour to eat. WIth a nice soup mix, less then 10 minutes.

I don't mind if the soup dosen't do any good, as long as it dosen't do any bad.
 
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  • #60
chroot said:
Also, if you're trying to lose weight, one cannot overemphasize the important of regular exercise. From the sound of it, you eat like a Ukranian prisoner, and you haven't mentioned your exercise habits at all.

- Warren

It's not just to lose weight, convinence is right up there. I do no planned excercises. It's all input, output. I rather control the input to match the low output. So I don't mind eating harshly. You can see why I don't want to make too delicious meals because then I would over eat.
 
  • #61
tgt said:
It's not just to lose weight, convinence is right up there. I do no planned excercises. It's all input, output. I rather control the input to match the low output. So I don't mind eating harshly. You can see why I don't want to make too delicious meals because then I would over eat.

Sounds like your soup-and-bread idea hasn't been workin' too well in the past, so maybe you should consider seeking the advice of people who know more than you... say, the people who have responded in this thread. Several people have pointed out how poor your nutrition is, and how unlikely it is to help you lose weight or maintain basic health. It's lacking in fiber, protein, and all manner of vitamins. You have no idea how to eat properly, and your lack of exercise is appalling. If you really think the diet I described is any harder to prepare than (gasp!) six slices of bread, you're lacking more than just nutrition...

- Warren
 
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  • #62
chroot said:
Sounds like your soup-and-bread idea hasn't been workin' too well in the past, so maybe you should consider seeking the advice of people who know more than you... say, the people who have responded in this thread. Several people have pointed out how poor your nutrition is, and how unlikely it is to help you lose weight or maintain basic health. It's lacking in fiber, protein, and all manner of vitamins. You have no idea how to eat properly, and your lack of exercise is appalling. If you really think the diet I described is any harder to prepare than (gasp!) six slices of bread, you're lacking more than just nutrition...

- Warren

I've only started this soup based meal and it's working well, as in I am losing weight.

I am feeling fine so why bother about lack of nutrition? What are the physical effects of being nutrition deficient? I don't feel hungry most of the time so that's a plus.

I do eat one proper meal a day which has veges and meat but with more veges then meat. I also eat apples and bananas on the side for snack or dessert.
 
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  • #63
A really really fast and easy meal is a stirfry, just throw in whatever fresh veggies you have and some sort of meat like chicken or pork and you have a great meal.
 
  • #64
scorpa said:
A really really fast and easy meal is a stirfry, just throw in whatever fresh veggies you have and some sort of meat like chicken or pork and you have a great meal.

That's true although it still takes work and you get a bad smell after cooking.
 
  • #65
tgt said:
That's true although it still takes work and you get a bad smell after cooking.

Chopping some vegetables and meat and putting them in a frying pan really isn't that much work, and if your stirfrys smell bad you are doing something very wrong, they are pretty darn hard to screw up.
 
  • #66
I tried as well to come up with some alternatives, here's what I remember that was worth eating:
EggBeater Breakfast Burrito
-Southwest style EggBeater (its a egg white only substitute if you don't know)
-Super Lean Turkey Sausage
-Chopped Onions and peppers
-A little bit of reduced/very low fat cheese
-Some hot sauce
The nice thing is the sausage, onions and peppers, once cooked can sit in a container in your fridge for a few days, so you don't have to prepare it everyday. Just cook some eggbeater (really really fast cook time) and toss it into a tortilla. Low calorie, has SOME nutritional value. (Add some more veggies if you need, maybe some mushrooms).

Lunch:
Again a tortilla, lots of lettuce(I use mixed greens), some almond chips, chopped tomatoes, raw mushrooms, very thinly sliced carrots, and drizzle with balsamic vinegar (NOT Vinaigrette, that has oil). I like to pack in the veggies, or you'll be hungry within an hour. Very low cal, tasty and nutritious. Usually I eat it with a handful of carrots.

Dinner:
I'm usually fairly hungry by dinner, so its a simple stirfry (why dirty more than one pan that's cleaned easily?)
Peppers(multiple types), onions, green onions, mushrooms are all easy to stirfry with some chicken. I use a little low sodium ginger-soy and the freshly minced garlic that comes in a jar. Once again something that I make then eat for 3 days after. Served with side salad (balsamic vinegar again) and carrots or broccoli.
I also steamed peas and carrots, asparagus, broccoli, etc.

The biggest problem with eating healthy on a tight schedule is keeping the things in your fridge fresh. I don't have time at night to go pick up another bag of onions or some more chicken.

The key to the stirfry is to make sure not to burn whatever sauce you use. If you do it'll usually smell bad. That and over spicing. DONT OVER SPICE. Simple combos like garlic/ginger, salt/pepper, lemon, etc. Don't use 8 different jars from the cupboard thinking itll taste good.
 
  • #67
scorpa said:
Chopping some vegetables and meat and putting them in a frying pan really isn't that much work, and if your stirfrys smell bad you are doing something very wrong, they are pretty darn hard to screw up.

I just don't like the oily smell on the clothes, that's all. btw I'm a master of fried rices. I did one and a picky eater said it tastes just like the one bought in the shops.
 
  • #68
tgt, it is becoming evident that you are trolling and do not want to have anything to do with the very good advice that you have been given here. Why?
 
  • #69
turbo-1 said:
tgt, it is becoming evident that you are trolling and do not want to have anything to do with the very good advice that you have been given here. Why?

Everything is working at the moment so I'm satisfied as it is. However, this thread has given me some new ideas. I still eat one proper meal a day which is bought. I am thinking of cooking that one myself in the future. I can also imagine cooking a large portion a day and splitting it into three meals for the day. The only forseeable problem is that I might make it too delicious and as a result eat the whole thing in one go.

I can see that the more cooking one does, the better one gets good at it and dishes that seem complicated become second nature. Ultimately, it would be best to cook three independent dishes.

Currently, as a result of this thread and maybe also boredom, I have cut the bread soup meal from two to once a day and have cereal for breakfast instead.
 
  • #70
tgt, how old are you? Are you living on your own? It seems strange how you firstly lack the basic knowledge of what is good for you and what isn't and, secondly, how you seem to be too lazy to chop a few vegetables!

If you live in shared flat (say, at university or something) then you can always share the cooking by taking it in turns with the other residents. That way, you don't have to cook every day, and you can cook things in bulk (which is easier, anyway!).
 
  • #71
I'm an indepedent young adult.

I always refer to the food pyramid for what's good and what's not.

For me, the main priority is not to over eat and convienence. The result is instant soup-bread meals.

The cereal was a bad idea as I just had some for dessert which meant a bit of over eating. What are some healthy cereals? The only one for me might be wheet-bix.
 
  • #72
Sorry, but your goals of losing weight and remaining lazy are incompatible. I have to agree with turbo, though, that it's seriously sounding like you're just trolling here, refusing to listen to a bit of advice given to you on proper nutritional habits. That, or you're just making excuses for yourself to stay lazy, in which case, why should we bother responding if you don't want to change what you're doing anyway?
 
  • #73
I have to throw in one more comment, since tgt has brought up the Food Pyramid a number of times in support of his bread-and-salt diet.

Here's an article about the mysterious history of the Food Pyramid, and just how ridiculous it actually is, that was published in the journal Science back in 2001. Don't worry, it's an engaging read.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/taubes.html

Go down to your local gym and ask anyone with any serious interest in health and fitness if they follow the Food Pyramid, and they'll laugh.

- Warren
 
  • #74
tgt said:
That's true although it still takes work and you get a bad smell after cooking.

If you get bad smells, it may be your cooking oil. I've found it goes bad pretty quickly after opening. Canola oil gives off a fishy smell when it's old.

If you're pressed for time (or lazy :wink: ), buy veggies from the salad bar of your grocery store. You can buy just the amount you need and they're already chopped up. Yes, it's a bit more expensive than if you bought them whole and chopped them yourself, but that's the cost of convenience.

Moonbear has a good point about color. It's usually true that the more processed a food is, the whiter it is. Go for color - reds, oranges, yellows, greens. Especially greens.
 
  • #75
chroot said:
Go down to your local gym and

From the article it looks like avoiding salt, fat, high/low/poly/non/whatever the **** is horror of the month is largely irrelevant - what matters is getting off you butt, losing some pounds and getting a bit of exercise.
 
  • #76
I made supper tonight and just finished washing up the dishes. We had chicken breast (no skin) baked in my home-made BBQ sauce (ketchup, mustard, molasses, garlic powder, onion powder, cayenne, crushed red pepper, and some of my jalapeno chili relish), baked potatoes and steamed Swiss chard from last summer's garden. A bit of butter and pepper for my potatoes, and some vinegar and black pepper on the Swiss chard topped everything off. Total prep time was less than 10 minutes, then about an hour of cook-time in the oven. Five minutes before the hour was up, start steaming the Swiss chard, and dinner is served. Meals like this are drop-dead easy to prepare, healthy, and delicious.
 
  • #77
turbo-1 said:
I made supper tonight and just finished washing up the dishes.

What's wrong with this picture? The deal here is, who does the meal does not do the dishes. You're too good.

menu here was wok fried chicken dice with onions, red peppers, zuchini and mushrooms, served with a soft mustard sauce on a bed of wild rice. Home recepy or "Poule a la Maison"
 
  • #78
Andre said:
What's wrong with this picture? The deal here is, who does the meal does not do the dishes. You're too good.

menu here was wok fried chicken dice with onions, red peppers, zuchini and mushrooms, served with a soft mustard sauce on a bed of wild rice. Home recepy or "Poule a la Maison"
My wife had foot surgery - bunion removal involving breaking/cutting bone and slicing muscle tissue, skin, etc. I'm doing all the cooking/cleaning while she's off her feet. She's lucky that I'm a good cook - 6 weeks is a long time to eat blah crap.
 
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  • #79
Send her my best wishes.
 
  • #80
chroot said:
Go down to your local gym and ask anyone with any serious interest in health and fitness if they follow the Food Pyramid, and they'll laugh.

Well, part of the problem with the food pyramid is it really isn't all that different than what common sense says is a good meal, except people have such skewed sense of portions (and the pyramid does such a lousy job of defining them), that people end up eating far too much and of all the wrong things because they can't make much sense of how to interpret the pyramid. Too many people seem to look at it and think they need to have one steak, 6 loaves of bread, a slab of butter, and 4 green beans to have a balanced diet.

Anyway, I'm still wondering where powdered soup mix is found on the food pyramid. :rolleyes:
 
  • #81
Sometimes I just eat a can of peas for dinner. I like peas.
 
  • #82
Moonbear said:
Anyway, I'm still wondering where powdered soup mix is found on the food pyramid. :rolleyes:

It's the mortar.
 
  • #83
Andre said:
Send her my best wishes.
Thanks, Andre! She says "thanks". She's bored, and it's hard to keep her off her feet, and she's walking more than her doctor had recommended, but she has pitched out the pain medication and seems to be mending well. Maybe soon, she'll be allowed to spend more time on her feet. Her next follow-up is Tuesday.

I don't mind doing all the cooking, but maybe I can get her doing dishes when she can stand for longer periods.:rolleyes: All her sisters tell me "If I had to eat my husband's cooking, I'd starve!"
 
  • #84
turbo-1 said:
Thanks, Andre! She says "thanks". She's bored, and it's hard to keep her off her feet, and she's walking more than her doctor had recommended, but she has pitched out the pain medication and seems to be mending well. Maybe soon, she'll be allowed to spend more time on her feet. Her next follow-up is Tuesday.

I don't mind doing all the cooking, but maybe I can get her doing dishes when she can stand for longer periods.:rolleyes: All her sisters tell me "If I had to eat my husband's cooking, I'd starve!"

Maybe a tall stool will let her sit up next to the counter at a comfortable height to reach it and be of some help so she isn't so bored (funny how quickly the idea of sitting around doing nothing and being waited upon loses its appeal when you don't have any choice in the matter). Sit her in front of the computer and she can develop a PF addiction like the rest of us...that will at least keep her entertained until her foot is better.

Send her my wishes for a speedy recovery as well.
 
  • #85
Thanks, Moonie! She loves to read, and has dozens and dozens of mystery novels piled around her chair, but now that she's to sit with her foot up, reading is not as big of a treat as it used to be.

One little wrinkle - I have invented some new dishes to keep the menu varied, and she has proclaimed some of them her "favorite" which suggests that I might be taking over a lot more of the cooking than before her surgery. I like cooking and coming up with new stuff, but when a dish becomes a "favorite" I feel like I'm locked into making it the same way every time, and that takes a lot of the fun out of cooking. My "out" is that I don't use written recipes, so if I improvise and the dish changes or evolves over time, I have an excuse.
 
  • #86
Here's one of the new "favorites". My wife says that she doesn't care if I ever make another batch of chili con carne, if I will make this thick spicy soup. It's really easy to make. I just started to throw together stuff that we had on-hand and this came out. I think I'd like to participate in a cooking competition where you don't know what ingredients you'll have available until they start taping the show. That's my favorite kind of cooking.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1637796&postcount=224
 
  • #87
Moonbear said:
Anyway, I'm still wondering where powdered soup mix is found on the food pyramid. :rolleyes:

For the upteen's time the soup is for taste only, otherwise it's plain wholemeal bread.

I just a Earth shattering idea. The complaint for instant soup apart from the fact that it's not nutrious which I don't mind as it is there for taste, is that it's too salty. But there are always salt reduced soups avaliable. Plus I always put twice the amount of water in it then the recommanded amount on the label which dilates it a lot.
 
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  • #88
So you are recommending a diet of bread and water? I always thought of that as a punishment.
 
  • #89
tgt said:
For the upteen's time the soup is for taste only, otherwise it's plain wholemeal bread.

Since when has six slices of bread been a reasonable meal? You've got to be trolling.

- Warren
 
  • #90
chroot said:
Since when has six slices of bread been a reasonable meal? You've got to be trolling.

- Warren

six slices of bread gets the job done in that it leaves me feeling not too full and I feel good afterwards.

What is trolling?
 
  • #91
tribdog said:
So you are recommending a diet of bread and water? I always thought of that as a punishment.

I don't recommend it to anyone. It works for me. You're quiet right that it's like punishment. Anything tastier and I might overeat.
 
  • #92
So, tgt, this thread has gone on for seven pages now, and you're still insisting that:

1) Six slices of bread is a perfectly nutritious meal.
2) Your weight problem is caused by your food being 'too delicious.'

I give up.

- Warren
 
  • #93
I read a book back in the 90's about blood types and how they digest foods in different ways. I had never taken it very serious at the time because I was young and felt healthy.

Jump forward about 10 years I had put on some weight... and had little to no energy at all. I came across the book again and found out that the Dr. who wrote it had built a website based on the principles of blood type diets.

Me being O neg decided to give it a whirl, after all... it was telling me that I needed to eat more meat! (Me loves meat!)

I went to the local market and picked up about 20 pounds of steaks and a couple bags of charcoal for the grill.

At the time I was running my own business and staying at home during the day taking care of my kid. So every day around noon I would take my kid to school. Come home, light up the BBQ and grill me a nice fat steak. I'll admit, it had been awhile since I had really eaten meat on a daily basis, and it took quite some time for my body to readjust to this new diet.

After about a week went by and my routine was very consistent I noticed that I was sleeping better, waking up without a problem and had energy throughout the entire day. I started adding some vegetables to my diet for snacks and stuff throughout the day.

I lived like this for about 3 years and never felt better, I dropped a lot of weight and felt healthier than ever. Granted... I have no idea what this meat is doing to the inside of my body, but I'd rather live 20 years with this much energy than 40 years without it.

Since I've moved back to Alaska, I no longer have the privilege of going to the store and buying fresh, healthy meat on a weekly basis... it's been almost 2 years and my body and mind have reverted back to it's old state. Just recently I have started ordering meat from Washington and having it shipped up to me by friends and family... I can already start to feel the energy coming back.

Anyways.. back to the original comment I was going to make before I started rambling...

it's worth checking out the website, no gimmicks, no investments... just a simple list of things your blood type breaks down easier and more efficiently.

here's the link if anyone is interested:
http://www.dadamo.com/
 
  • #94
P4PPY, have you ever been tested for iron-deficient anemia? If you're feeling fatigued or lacking energy, and it goes away when you eat more meat, maybe you're iron-deficient. If you have trouble getting a reliable supply of meat where you are, try an iron supplement, and also check that the vegetables you're eating are providing a complete protein.
 
  • #95
When that blood type book came out, I didn't give it a second thought. I thought, yeah, more junk science. But then I learned that my niece, who is a PhD ornithologist, swears by it...and she'd no dummy.

I still haven't read it, and in fact I had forgot all about it, so thanks for posting the link. I'll check it out.

Anyone on PF know anything about it?
 
  • #96
tgt said:
For the upteen's time the soup is for taste only, otherwise it's plain wholemeal bread.

That's it? You're eating bread and only bread and think it's a nutritious meal? Have you NEVER had an biology or nutrition or even a home ec class somewhere in your life to realize how pathetically deficient of a diet that is? Sure, you'll lose weight, but that's about the unhealthiest possible way to lose weight short of complete starvation.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c11GB.html

Just take a look at all the vitamins and minerals bread DOES NOT provide.
 
  • #97
lisab said:
When that blood type book came out, I didn't give it a second thought. I thought, yeah, more junk science. But then I learned that my niece, who is a PhD ornithologist, swears by it...and she'd no dummy.

Why would being an expert on birds make one qualified to judge a book on nutrition? Sounds like yet another gimmick diet book to make the author rich.
 
  • #98
Moonbear said:
Why would being an expert on birds make one qualified to judge a book on nutrition? Sounds like yet another gimmick diet book to make the author rich.

She's had a whole lot more biology than me, that's all :smile: ! I was too busy taking physics and chemistry courses...I took biochem once and almost went nuts from all the memorization.

I just did a quick look on the author; he's widely discredited by nutritionists.

But I also learned that in Japan, there's a widely held believe that blood type influences personality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_blood_type_theory_of_personality

I'll file that in my "Well, I'll be darned!" file.
 
  • #99
10 serving's for under $20

1.Can of refried bean
1-green bell pepper
1-red bell peper
1-green onion's
1-onion
torte shell's
Cheese of your pick
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chop bell peppers ,green onoins ,and onion mix with bean's, add cheese if wanted. then place in pan, add 1-tea spoon oil of your choice, place lid over, and cook till golden brown on both side's.
For a side dish have a salad with cumber's carrots tomoto's, and celo. Then for after dinner snack have a red apple, and two glasses of water.
This should give you what your body need's
finsih with vita suppliments, then sleep :D tastes good and is cheap
 
  • #100
eh oops not 10 servings for under $20 ignor that statement
 
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