Volume of 2 mol N2 @ 0°C & 1 atm: 11.2 L

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The discussion centers on calculating the volume of nitrogen gas under specific conditions using gas laws. It initially questions whether Boyle's Law is appropriate, given that the amount of gas changes, and suggests using the Ideal Gas Law instead. The Ideal Gas Law (PV=nRT) is recommended for solving the problem, emphasizing that other gas laws are special cases of it. Participants also explore the relationship between pressure and volume when conditions change, leading to further calculations. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of applying the Ideal Gas Law for accurate results in gas volume calculations.
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If 0.5 mol of nitrigen gas occupies a volume of 11.2 L at 0 degrees Celsius, what volume will 2 mol of nitrogen gas occupy at the same temperature and pressure?
 
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blackjack18 said:
If 0.5 mol of nitrigen gas occupies a volume of 11.2 L at 0 degrees Celsius, what volume will 2 mol of nitrogen gas occupy at the same temperature and pressure?

Welcome to PF.

What is your thinking about how to approach the problem?
 
all i really need help with is the pressure... i have the formula for the problem i think (boyle's law) but i do not know the what the pressure is...
 
blackjack18 said:
all i really need help with is the pressure... i have the formula for the problem i think (boyle's law) but i do not know the what the pressure is...

What happens when you divide one equation by the other?
 
i don't know...boyles law states P x V = constant...and i don't know what the pressure is
 
is 44.8 L/mol is the answer?
 
I would almost agree, but it asks for the volume it occupies, not the volume per mol. I get 44.8 L as an answer.
 
blackjack18 said:
is 44.8 L/mol is the answer?

That's what it looks like except drop the /mol.
 
blackjack18 said:
i don't know...boyles law states P x V = constant...and i don't know what the pressure is

I don't think Boyle's law applies if the amount of material changes. I would think the ideal gas law should be applied instead. PV=nRT (n = number of moles, R = gas constant, T = temperature).
 
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alrighty, thanks...
 
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Should Boyle's Law be used in this problem, since the temperature remains constant:

What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?
 
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Yes.
 
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May I recommend that instead of memorizing or search for different laws for different problems you could simply ALWAYS apply the Ideal Gas Law since ,Charles', Boyles' and Avagadro's Laws are simply special cases of the I.G. Law.
 
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blackjack18 said:
Should Boyle's Law be used in this problem, since the temperature remains constant:

What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?

Strictly speaking you should consider using the Ideal Gas Law PV = nRT.

To find unknowns in situations that some things change and others don't, then divide the two equations such that

P1V1/P2V2 = n1R1T1/n2R2T2

Just cross out the things that don't change between 1 and 2.
 
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is the answer v2=15 L?
 
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blackjack18 said:
is the answer v2=15 L?

You've already posted the answer. Are you answering another problem?
 
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yes, is that the answer to the following: What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?
 
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yes, is that the answer to the following: What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?
 
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