Volume of 2 mol N2 @ 0°C & 1 atm: 11.2 L

  • Thread starter Thread starter blackjack18
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Volume
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the volume of nitrogen gas under specific conditions, focusing on the relationship between moles, volume, temperature, and pressure. Participants are exploring gas laws, particularly in the context of ideal gas behavior and Boyle's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to determine the volume of 2 moles of nitrogen gas based on the volume occupied by 0.5 moles. There are questions regarding the applicability of Boyle's law and the ideal gas law in this scenario.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest using the ideal gas law instead of Boyle's law, while others are questioning the pressure and its role in the calculations. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correct approach to the problem, with no clear consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of changing the amount of gas and how that affects the application of gas laws. There are also references to specific conditions such as temperature and pressure that are relevant to the problem.

blackjack18
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
If 0.5 mol of nitrigen gas occupies a volume of 11.2 L at 0 degrees Celsius, what volume will 2 mol of nitrogen gas occupy at the same temperature and pressure?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
blackjack18 said:
If 0.5 mol of nitrigen gas occupies a volume of 11.2 L at 0 degrees Celsius, what volume will 2 mol of nitrogen gas occupy at the same temperature and pressure?

Welcome to PF.

What is your thinking about how to approach the problem?
 
all i really need help with is the pressure... i have the formula for the problem i think (boyle's law) but i do not know the what the pressure is...
 
blackjack18 said:
all i really need help with is the pressure... i have the formula for the problem i think (boyle's law) but i do not know the what the pressure is...

What happens when you divide one equation by the other?
 
i don't know...boyles law states P x V = constant...and i don't know what the pressure is
 
is 44.8 L/mol is the answer?
 
I would almost agree, but it asks for the volume it occupies, not the volume per mol. I get 44.8 L as an answer.
 
blackjack18 said:
is 44.8 L/mol is the answer?

That's what it looks like except drop the /mol.
 
blackjack18 said:
i don't know...boyles law states P x V = constant...and i don't know what the pressure is

I don't think Boyle's law applies if the amount of material changes. I would think the ideal gas law should be applied instead. PV=nRT (n = number of moles, R = gas constant, T = temperature).
 
  • #10
alrighty, thanks...
 
  • #11
Should Boyle's Law be used in this problem, since the temperature remains constant:

What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?
 
  • #12
Yes.
 
  • #13
May I recommend that instead of memorizing or search for different laws for different problems you could simply ALWAYS apply the Ideal Gas Law since ,Charles', Boyles' and Avagadro's Laws are simply special cases of the I.G. Law.
 
  • #14
blackjack18 said:
Should Boyle's Law be used in this problem, since the temperature remains constant:

What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?

Strictly speaking you should consider using the Ideal Gas Law PV = nRT.

To find unknowns in situations that some things change and others don't, then divide the two equations such that

P1V1/P2V2 = n1R1T1/n2R2T2

Just cross out the things that don't change between 1 and 2.
 
  • #15
is the answer v2=15 L?
 
  • #16
blackjack18 said:
is the answer v2=15 L?

You've already posted the answer. Are you answering another problem?
 
  • #17
yes, is that the answer to the following: What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?
 
  • #18
yes, is that the answer to the following: What is the volume of an ideal gas at 1 atm, 12 L, and 25 degrees Celsius if the pressure is decreased to 0.8 atm at 25 degrees Celsius?
 

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
7K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
18
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K